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KGB did not use or believe in polygraphs. Always found that an interesting comparison to American intelligence.
by rshnotsecure 6y ago
KGB did not use or believe in polygraphs. Always found that an interesting comparison to American intelligence.
- wongarsu 6y agoDoes anyone outside the US use or believe in polygraphs?
- giles_corey 6y agoYes, unfortunately. The governments of the following countries, among others, rely on polygraphy to varying extents: Canada, UK, Israel, Russia, Ukraine, and China.
- edwinyzh 6y agoChina has recently abandoned the use of Polygraph (I read such a news recently).
- jacobush 6y agoNo private companies hustling polygraph consultants and gear in communist Soviet Union.
- petre 6y agoNo, they would just break your fingers or <insert torture> until you admitted to basically anything just to make them stop. They didin't need a polygraph for that, just a hammer, a drawer or a door.
- sildur 6y agoAh, the Guantanamo tourist pack.
- mc32 6y agoNo, I think it was the archipelago tour where millions of people got to stay in remote islands but to their dismay never got to leave but they did get to write birthday cards to the steel man.
- formerly_proven 6y agoThe Panetta review (CIA-internal) and the SSCI torture report (one of those "S"'s are for United States Senate) concluded that torture is largely inefficient at extracting information from extremists. You can torture someone for years on end with them still keeping the things you ask from you. Someone who doesn't know anything, will tell you anything, while someone with deep faith will feed you shit.
- petre 6y agoIt's true, however that didn't matter much in the USSR. What mattered is that somebody got punished, paperwork was taken care of and the agents were doing their jobs. All of this is nicely illustrated in the Citizen X movie, although in a different context.
- pmachinery 6y agoCitizen X is an American drama. If it depicts what you're saying (I've seen it but can't remember it) then it's just another Western dramatization depicting post-Stalin Soviet Union in cliches from the 1930s. In the real life case Citizen X is inspired by[0], nobody was tortured for a conviction, even the guilty man, who was simply put into a cell with a police informer to gather information and questioned normally by investigators who only had ten days under Soviet law to release or charge him. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrei_Chikatilo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrei_Chikatilo
- petre 6y agoPost-Stalin Soviet Union clichés, of course. How do you think the wrongly arrested people confessed to the murders in the first place? "At his trial, Kravchenko retracted his confession and maintained his innocence, stating his confession had been obtained under extreme duress."
- watwut 6y agoThat does not make citizen-x documentary. These movies were made from imagination.
- actuator 6y agoAren't there psychoactive meds which weaken control and should work better unless the person has developed resistance against that compound.
- cik2e 6y agohttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_serum https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_serum TL;DR No, there aren’t.
- actuator 6y agoAll the Reliability section of that page says is, there isn't a randomised study you can trust.
- formerly_proven 6y agoAlcohol
- GuB-42 6y agoThere are, the most well known being alcohol. However, while it makes people more talkative, it doesn't make them more truthful. So it is not considered effective as an interrogation technique.
- yyx 6y agoAnd yet in Russia it's used when applying for a job in police.
- booleandilemma 6y agoDid they use vodka instead?