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Not sure if that's a good thing. I wouldn't say the same for a comment on another site (different things drive different people), but I assume you have some asp

Not sure if that's a good thing. I wouldn't say the same for a comment on another site (different things drive different people), but I assume you have some aspirations to make it and be your own boss.

SandB0x 16y ago
Jesus, you're reading a lot into this one comment! For all you know kabdib could be Ken Thompson and his manager could be Larry Page.
- karolist 16y ago
  Yes, that's why I said "Not sure".
  - edw 16y ago
    Yes, logically, "Not sure it's a good thing," means "It is either a good thing or it is not a good thing." You know, X or not X, and so your ass-covering comment is logically defensible, but come on, you wrote it for a reason. Just say, "Good point," and move on.
    - karolist 16y ago
      "Not sure" in this context was meant demonstrate I'm open to both variants of the situation, good and bad. Since OP had upvotes already indicating that people find it good/funny/whatever, the point was to bring other side of this to light. There's a saying that fits your comment so well - don't tell me what to do and I won't tell you where to go.
      - talonx 16y ago
        Are we turning into an anti-dissent crowd? Look at the downvotes - the same number, and why? Because somebody had a different opinion? Because it's so easy to downvote here and not let out your identity or have to explain why you did it? Tolerance of, nay, encouragement of dissent (not insubstantiated rants) is the hallmark of a healthy community. Btw, if you choose to downvote this, please explain why and what I am missing. Thank you.
        karolist 16y ago
        It's interesting for me to watch the downvotes, but I'm not really concerned about it. I won't delete these comments as I stand by them, all this upvote/downvote business to me looks like yet another MMORPG I have no interest in.
robryan 16y ago
He's manager doesn't get to program all day though :P As long as it's a company in which compensation isn't determined arbitrarily by position in hierarchy it's a great thing.
- charlieflowers 16y ago
  Amen, brother. Like being a contractor with a high rate who gets to program all day and ignore the political bullshit.
  - Stormbringer 16y ago
    As someone who has been a "contractor who ignores all the political bullshit", my personal observation is that it is the contractors who are actually good at navigating the political bullshit (win friends and influence people and all that jazz) tend to be the ones who get top dollar and have continuous employment. Whereas the contractors who are merely extraordinarily good at programming tend to have a lot of downtime in between short engagements. Some people think that if you have social skills you can't be a 'real' hacker, but often sales skills and good presentation are a force multiplier for a contractor with good technical skills.
    - charlieflowers 16y ago
      Sure, no doubt. You'll never hear me speak against having sales skills or any other kind of skill. I'm for having as many skills as possible. There are no "mutually exclusive" skills, so people who think gaining sales skill causes hacker skill to magically disappear are wrong. And there are those -- also wrong -- who think having programming skill automatically means you can't be good at communication.

SandB0x 16y ago

Jesus, you're reading a lot into this one comment! For all you know kabdib could be Ken Thompson and his manager could be Larry Page.

karolist 16y ago
Yes, that's why I said "Not sure".
- edw 16y ago
  Yes, logically, "Not sure it's a good thing," means "It is either a good thing or it is not a good thing." You know, X or not X, and so your ass-covering comment is logically defensible, but come on, you wrote it for a reason. Just say, "Good point," and move on.
  - karolist 16y ago
    "Not sure" in this context was meant demonstrate I'm open to both variants of the situation, good and bad. Since OP had upvotes already indicating that people find it good/funny/whatever, the point was to bring other side of this to light. There's a saying that fits your comment so well - don't tell me what to do and I won't tell you where to go.
    - talonx 16y ago
      Are we turning into an anti-dissent crowd? Look at the downvotes - the same number, and why? Because somebody had a different opinion? Because it's so easy to downvote here and not let out your identity or have to explain why you did it? Tolerance of, nay, encouragement of dissent (not insubstantiated rants) is the hallmark of a healthy community. Btw, if you choose to downvote this, please explain why and what I am missing. Thank you.
      - karolist 16y ago
        It's interesting for me to watch the downvotes, but I'm not really concerned about it. I won't delete these comments as I stand by them, all this upvote/downvote business to me looks like yet another MMORPG I have no interest in.

robryan 16y ago

He's manager doesn't get to program all day though :P As long as it's a company in which compensation isn't determined arbitrarily by position in hierarchy it's a great thing.

charlieflowers 16y ago
Amen, brother. Like being a contractor with a high rate who gets to program all day and ignore the political bullshit.
- Stormbringer 16y ago
  As someone who has been a "contractor who ignores all the political bullshit", my personal observation is that it is the contractors who are actually good at navigating the political bullshit (win friends and influence people and all that jazz) tend to be the ones who get top dollar and have continuous employment. Whereas the contractors who are merely extraordinarily good at programming tend to have a lot of downtime in between short engagements. Some people think that if you have social skills you can't be a 'real' hacker, but often sales skills and good presentation are a force multiplier for a contractor with good technical skills.
  - charlieflowers 16y ago
    Sure, no doubt. You'll never hear me speak against having sales skills or any other kind of skill. I'm for having as many skills as possible. There are no "mutually exclusive" skills, so people who think gaining sales skill causes hacker skill to magically disappear are wrong. And there are those -- also wrong -- who think having programming skill automatically means you can't be good at communication.