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"following the YouTube playbook word for word" Exactly, I guess they don't want to get in the middle of it. The disadvantages of building on someone else's pla

"following the YouTube playbook word for word" Exactly, I guess they don't want to get in the middle of it. The disadvantages of building on someone else's platform, I suppose.

gcb 16y ago
They don't want competition. As the parent stated, that is youtube starting. And now they also have to protect amazon mp3 investment on them. Seems weird, but I bet theres lots of politics between google and amazon over android
- trotsky 16y ago
  Isn't the planned google music (set to launch in 2011) service going to be more or less in direct competition with Amazon MP3 & Cloud player? I doubt they are protecting Amazon interests here.
  - gcb 16y ago
    Are you pretty sure it will not be a way to direct people to amazon? Google shopping is not about google selling stuff... and guess who's usually on top Either way, I'm still sure I'm not allowed to uninstall amazon mp3 app from my android super open and free dev phone
    - trotsky 16y ago
      I think that it's true. They have been trying to secure streaming and sales licenses from the labels for some time now. I suppose if that falls through (the labels are brutal at this stage of negotiations) they might team up with amazon, but I'd be surprised if that happened. They do have some precedent here, consider the google books ebookstore: http://books.google.com/ebooks http://books.google.com/ebooks
jokermatt999 16y ago
It's less of a risk here though, because as pointed out elsewhere in the thread, it's still easily available through http://mobile.grooveshark.com/android http://mobile.grooveshark.com/android. The loss of discoverability from being on the Market sucks, but the publicity from being removed reminded me to install it at least. Overall though, I think the ability to have your users install your app even if you get kicked off of the market is a fundamental advantage that Android has. It's going to be a detriment if you're a paid app, but if you're ad-supported, being kicked off the Market is not nearly as big of an issue. You just need to solve the publicity/discoverability issue.
- ffumarola 16y ago
  Not all Android devices allow side loading, to my knowledge. So it doesn't seem to be an inherent advantage of Android. After all, you CAN jail break your iPhone.

"following the YouTube playbook word for word" Exactly, I guess they don't want to get in the middle of it. The disadvantages of building on someone else's platform, I suppose.

gcb 16y ago

They don't want competition. As the parent stated, that is youtube starting. And now they also have to protect amazon mp3 investment on them. Seems weird, but I bet theres lots of politics between google and amazon over android

trotsky 16y ago
Isn't the planned google music (set to launch in 2011) service going to be more or less in direct competition with Amazon MP3 & Cloud player? I doubt they are protecting Amazon interests here.
- gcb 16y ago
  Are you pretty sure it will not be a way to direct people to amazon? Google shopping is not about google selling stuff... and guess who's usually on top Either way, I'm still sure I'm not allowed to uninstall amazon mp3 app from my android super open and free dev phone
  - trotsky 16y ago
    I think that it's true. They have been trying to secure streaming and sales licenses from the labels for some time now. I suppose if that falls through (the labels are brutal at this stage of negotiations) they might team up with amazon, but I'd be surprised if that happened. They do have some precedent here, consider the google books ebookstore: http://books.google.com/ebooks http://books.google.com/ebooks

jokermatt999 16y ago

It's less of a risk here though, because as pointed out elsewhere in the thread, it's still easily available through http://mobile.grooveshark.com/android http://mobile.grooveshark.com/android. The loss of discoverability from being on the Market sucks, but the publicity from being removed reminded me to install it at least. Overall though, I think the ability to have your users install your app even if you get kicked off of the market is a fundamental advantage that Android has. It's going to be a detriment if you're a paid app, but if you're ad-supported, being kicked off the Market is not nearly as big of an issue. You just need to solve the publicity/discoverability issue.

ffumarola 16y ago
Not all Android devices allow side loading, to my knowledge. So it doesn't seem to be an inherent advantage of Android. After all, you CAN jail break your iPhone.