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I think it is more complex than this. Overdose is a real negative outcome.

donatj 6y ago
Overdoses themselves are relatively rare, particularly with prescribed drugs, and especially when you consider the absolutely enormous number of people on opiates. I believe the solution is to make opiates easily, cheaply and safely available in a controlled clinical setting, much like how Portugal got their opiate problem under control. Keeps people off street drugs, thus keeping their doses reasonable and opiates out of the hands of people who are not recovering.
deelowe 6y ago
Overdose is most common on illegal opiates due to inconsistencies in the product itself. It's gotten worse as fentanyl has made it's way into the supply chain which dramatically alters the potency of "normal" opiates.
colechristensen 6y ago
In the era of fentanyl, the overdose problem is largely caused by the black market nature of getting the drug, poorly mixed inactive ingredients with opiates which can have orders of magnitude difference in effective dose. Overdose on legally manufactured drugs being much overshadowed by the black market sourced drugs. It is difficult to come to conclusions about how much of the reactions are showboating and how much are legitimate, but it seems clear that the net negative outcomes can be minimized if you teach people about the drugs they want to take, allow them access to a reliable source, allow them access to treatment for misuse and addiction, and target the sources of suffering that lead people to try to escape with drugs. The situation though is considerably more complex than just these points.
- husarcik 6y ago
  Please provide statistics for your claims. Most notably, largely caused by "black market nature of getting the drug". Thanks!
  - colechristensen 6y ago
    Here’s one, the data isn’t quite binned correctly for my argument but shows a very pronounced rise of synthetic opioid overdose deaths starting in the mid 2010s. https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/epidemic/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/epidemic/index.html

Overdoses themselves are relatively rare, particularly with prescribed drugs, and especially when you consider the absolutely enormous number of people on opiates. I believe the solution is to make opiates easily, cheaply and safely available in a controlled clinical setting, much like how Portugal got their opiate problem under control. Keeps people off street drugs, thus keeping their doses reasonable and opiates out of the hands of people who are not recovering.

deelowe 6y ago

Overdose is most common on illegal opiates due to inconsistencies in the product itself. It's gotten worse as fentanyl has made it's way into the supply chain which dramatically alters the potency of "normal" opiates.

colechristensen 6y ago

In the era of fentanyl, the overdose problem is largely caused by the black market nature of getting the drug, poorly mixed inactive ingredients with opiates which can have orders of magnitude difference in effective dose. Overdose on legally manufactured drugs being much overshadowed by the black market sourced drugs. It is difficult to come to conclusions about how much of the reactions are showboating and how much are legitimate, but it seems clear that the net negative outcomes can be minimized if you teach people about the drugs they want to take, allow them access to a reliable source, allow them access to treatment for misuse and addiction, and target the sources of suffering that lead people to try to escape with drugs. The situation though is considerably more complex than just these points.

husarcik 6y ago
Please provide statistics for your claims. Most notably, largely caused by "black market nature of getting the drug". Thanks!
- colechristensen 6y ago
  Here’s one, the data isn’t quite binned correctly for my argument but shows a very pronounced rise of synthetic opioid overdose deaths starting in the mid 2010s. https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/epidemic/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/epidemic/index.html