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well there are pros and cons to that, in many places in the world you would risk losing the piece forever regardless what the locals claim. plus while somethin
by Shivetya 6y ago
well there are pros and cons to that, in many places in the world you would risk losing the piece forever regardless what the locals claim.
plus while something may have come from a region and people of the world that no longer exist and the attachment is in name only. As in, there is no connection to the society that created the works to the one that rules the area now. There is always a case for those stolen within a few generations but going back beyond that is not always warranted. Plus when you get into some art and such who was the last rightful owner, you stole from someone who stole it from another and so on.
I would prefer a world where these antiquities are preserved but open to anyone to see.
- oh_sigh 6y agoI really doubt the Elgin marbles would disappear from Greece
- edge17 6y agoThis type of attempt to intellectualize cultural theft is usually how colonizers rationalize it. I understand what you're saying, but thats like making the argument that you shouldn't have the fancy car because it's safer in my driveway than yours.
- CamperBob2 6y agoEh, without colonial cross-pollination and cultural appropriation, many of these works would never have been inspired or created to begin with. You want to redress the past, invent a time machine. Otherwise, it is what it is (or, rather, was).
- mav3rick 6y agoLet me go to your house, steal your stuff and keep it forever and call it crosspollination.
- CamperBob2 6y ago(Shrug) Being a white male landowner, I probably have it coming.
- xnyan 6y agoOr you know we could just agree to 1) not steal things and 2) return the stuff we stole from others
- CamperBob2 6y ago(Shrug) They're dead, and don't need their stuff back. I'm not.
- mav3rick 6y agoSo we can steal it right now and not return it to your descendants ?
- throwaway0a5e 6y agoIf he fails to shoot you dead enough to prevent it then it's all yours. That's how these things work at the international level. Sure nowadays a country can appeal to the UN if they are being robbed but that isn't guaranteed to be helpful and back when the UK took most of the stuff there was no UN.
- edge17 6y agoI guess the other option is stealing it back from the European museums holding it, but I suppose now it would be called theft rather than "cultural cross pollination" https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2018/08/28/chinese-art-theft https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2018/08/28/chinese-art-theft
- mav3rick 6y agoSince when has the UK become the arbiter and police of the World's Art. Is it also rescuing currently "at danger" heirlooms ? Who are they to decide that they get to show it? For e.g. the Kohinoor diamond from India. Blatant theft. But sure done by a white colony so it must be fine. Saviors and all that.