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The goal should be self repair. I want the manuals and parts so I can make my own repair.

by maire 6y ago

cure 6y ago
Like Thinkpads, yeah.
jhallenworld 6y ago
Exactly right. I can (and do) repair my own car. Not so long ago you it was a normal thing that you could build your own TV... https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-Catalogs/Allied-Catalogs/Heathkit-1969.pdf https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-Catalogs/Allied-Catalo...
- mschuster91 6y ago
  > I can (and do) repair my own car. Out of random interest, what age is your car? Personally back when I had it I felt comfortable doing everything except steering, brakes and structural frame work on my 1994 VW T4, but I wouldn't dare touch a modern car. Too much investment required for special tooling, and diagnosis of problems requires a computer and specialized programs in contrast to a multimeter...
  - jhallenworld 6y ago
    Well my fleet has grown to three: a 2000 VW B5 Passat (230K miles), a 2010 VW CC, and a 2003 Cadillac CTS I inherited from my parents and which is a good car for kids to learn to drive on. I'm a bit invested in VW tools... (but no "vagcom" yet). One amazing thing is that the VW service books are cheaper than the GM one for the CTS... Actually the CTS probably needs a steering rack. It's the only car I've ever owned that has play/backlash in the steering and it doesn't appear to be the linkage. I haven't quite worked up the nerve to do it yet, but I think about it every time I drive the thing. I'm tempted to sell it, but the value is not much, its mileage is low and my kids do need a car..
robertoandred 6y ago
And then someone will mess up the repair and blame Apple for a malfunctioning device or demand they fix it for free.
- monocasa 6y ago
  That's what the car companies said would happen if independent mechanics were fully allowed.
- garbagetime 6y ago
  And then what?
  - fernandotakai 6y ago
    right? ok so they complain, apple proves they used 3rd party repair and... that's it? i mean, we do that with literally everything else -- why is apple special?
- ben-schaaf 6y ago
  Everyone deals with these type of customers. Product sellers, repair shops and yes that already includes Apple. And even if Apple was currently magically immune why do people want to protect the most profitable company in the world from something everyone else deals with?
- grugagag 6y ago
  > And then someone will mess up the repair and blame Apple for a malfunctioning device or demand they fix it for free. I call this bs. Apple doesn’t want devices repaired because they are too greedy. Their own repairs in store are sometimes more expensive than buying new. Guess why that is? Pure greed.
- anoncake 6y ago
  And I demand a pony.

The goal should be self repair. I want the manuals and parts so I can make my own repair.

by maire 6y ago

The goal should be self repair. I want the manuals and parts so I can make my own repair.

cure 6y ago

Like Thinkpads, yeah.

jhallenworld 6y ago

Exactly right. I can (and do) repair my own car. Not so long ago you it was a normal thing that you could build your own TV... https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-Catalogs/Allied-Catalogs/Heathkit-1969.pdf https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-Catalogs/Allied-Catalo...

mschuster91 6y ago
> I can (and do) repair my own car. Out of random interest, what age is your car? Personally back when I had it I felt comfortable doing everything except steering, brakes and structural frame work on my 1994 VW T4, but I wouldn't dare touch a modern car. Too much investment required for special tooling, and diagnosis of problems requires a computer and specialized programs in contrast to a multimeter...
- jhallenworld 6y ago
  Well my fleet has grown to three: a 2000 VW B5 Passat (230K miles), a 2010 VW CC, and a 2003 Cadillac CTS I inherited from my parents and which is a good car for kids to learn to drive on. I'm a bit invested in VW tools... (but no "vagcom" yet). One amazing thing is that the VW service books are cheaper than the GM one for the CTS... Actually the CTS probably needs a steering rack. It's the only car I've ever owned that has play/backlash in the steering and it doesn't appear to be the linkage. I haven't quite worked up the nerve to do it yet, but I think about it every time I drive the thing. I'm tempted to sell it, but the value is not much, its mileage is low and my kids do need a car..

robertoandred 6y ago

And then someone will mess up the repair and blame Apple for a malfunctioning device or demand they fix it for free.

monocasa 6y ago
That's what the car companies said would happen if independent mechanics were fully allowed.
garbagetime 6y ago
And then what?
- fernandotakai 6y ago
  right? ok so they complain, apple proves they used 3rd party repair and... that's it? i mean, we do that with literally everything else -- why is apple special?
ben-schaaf 6y ago
Everyone deals with these type of customers. Product sellers, repair shops and yes that already includes Apple. And even if Apple was currently magically immune why do people want to protect the most profitable company in the world from something everyone else deals with?
grugagag 6y ago
> And then someone will mess up the repair and blame Apple for a malfunctioning device or demand they fix it for free. I call this bs. Apple doesn’t want devices repaired because they are too greedy. Their own repairs in store are sometimes more expensive than buying new. Guess why that is? Pure greed.
anoncake 6y ago
And I demand a pony.