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> Right, and the rest of us don't want that Please stop speaking for others. I would certainly like to have the ability to install other sources for apps. Sinc

> Right, and the rest of us don't want that Please stop speaking for others. I would certainly like to have the ability to install other sources for apps. Since I am part of "the rest of us", for any kind of "us" that came to my mind while reading your posting ("iPhone users" or "Apple customers" or "HN readers"), your statement is patently false. > That's not what I want on my iPhone. Then don't install additional stores. I also don't want most of the apps currently available in Apple's app store on my iPhone, but I'm far from demanding that they are to be banned and other people who want to use them should be prevented from doing so. Also it's too sad you conspicuously skipped over danShumways question regarding the "bigger moat" - because I indeed would be interested in what moat you are imagining there, too.

ericmay 6y ago
> Please stop speaking for others. Same to you and the GP here. And last I checked there aren’t a lot of customers really complaining about the App Store. It’s just big companies who, although they could have done this years ago, are now going against Apple’s customer protection because it degrades their crappy business practices. > Then don’t install additional stores Then buy a different phone? I want any app that doesn’t follow Apple’s guidelines to be completely banned. Goodbye Epic. Nice knowing you. Don’t care. I don’t want apps spying on me, engaging in shitty business practices, scamming customers, and doing bad things. Apple is working to protect my privacy and safety. They’re not perfect, but that’s why I buy an iPhone and I want it to stay that way. If I wanted another App Store I’d buy a different phone, like you should.
- enragedcacti 6y ago
  Are you incapable of self control to the point of not being able to stop yourself from using a different app store? Or is it that you know Apple's cut is onerous enough that given competition, most the apps would leave? It feels like you want other users to suffer on the basis that your values happen to align with Apple's avenue for generating profit. If Apple were in it for your privacy and safety they could drop their cut substantially and kneecap most of the controversy.
- three_seagrass 6y ago
  A world where you have to buy a different phone just to use a different app store sounds pretty terrible. It would be like having to buy a different laptop to use Amazon or Ebay.
- stale2002 6y ago
  > but that’s why I buy an iPhone and I want it to stay that way. Ok. Now what if I were to tell you that you are perfectly capable of doing this, by simply not installing other app stores. You dont need to metaphorically break into my house, and force me, at gun point to follow your rules as well. You can do what you want with your phone, even if other people are able to do what they want with their own phone. > If I wanted another App Store Then just don't install the other app store? You have no said why you need to force me to do something, in order for you to get what you want.

ericmay 6y ago

> Please stop speaking for others. Same to you and the GP here. And last I checked there aren’t a lot of customers really complaining about the App Store. It’s just big companies who, although they could have done this years ago, are now going against Apple’s customer protection because it degrades their crappy business practices. > Then don’t install additional stores Then buy a different phone? I want any app that doesn’t follow Apple’s guidelines to be completely banned. Goodbye Epic. Nice knowing you. Don’t care. I don’t want apps spying on me, engaging in shitty business practices, scamming customers, and doing bad things. Apple is working to protect my privacy and safety. They’re not perfect, but that’s why I buy an iPhone and I want it to stay that way. If I wanted another App Store I’d buy a different phone, like you should.

enragedcacti 6y ago
Are you incapable of self control to the point of not being able to stop yourself from using a different app store? Or is it that you know Apple's cut is onerous enough that given competition, most the apps would leave? It feels like you want other users to suffer on the basis that your values happen to align with Apple's avenue for generating profit. If Apple were in it for your privacy and safety they could drop their cut substantially and kneecap most of the controversy.
three_seagrass 6y ago
A world where you have to buy a different phone just to use a different app store sounds pretty terrible. It would be like having to buy a different laptop to use Amazon or Ebay.
stale2002 6y ago
> but that’s why I buy an iPhone and I want it to stay that way. Ok. Now what if I were to tell you that you are perfectly capable of doing this, by simply not installing other app stores. You dont need to metaphorically break into my house, and force me, at gun point to follow your rules as well. You can do what you want with your phone, even if other people are able to do what they want with their own phone. > If I wanted another App Store Then just don't install the other app store? You have no said why you need to force me to do something, in order for you to get what you want.