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> auto-magically signed-up for CPA (Clean Power Alliance). This is a state-governed "CCA": https://cal-cca.org/about/members/ https://cal-cca.org/about/member

> auto-magically signed-up for CPA (Clean Power Alliance). This is a state-governed "CCA": https://cal-cca.org/about/members/ https://cal-cca.org/about/members/ Legally a CCA is required to send two "opt-out" notices. Being jaded and mistrustful, I did some research, and opted-out. > Which is, as far as I am concerned, a government run scam Only a slight exaggeration, by my experience. My city has lost money on the adventure, by extending zero-interest loans, and then forgiving them. The big winners are the power companies on the other side of the futures contracts, local clean-power advocates who imagine they have somehow "succeeded", and our city manager, who gets a trendy bullet item for his resume. Meanwhile, local for-profit power has begun offering a 100% renewable supply option for about 3% less than the CCA.

fortran77 6y ago
I opted out, too. I figured "It can't be without any downside as they say." I'm glad I did.
- everybodyknows 6y ago
  Might want to check city council records for hidden subsidies, covered of course by taxes on people like you and me.
  - fortran77 6y ago
    Interesting. My (Sunnyvale, CA) city council is extremely corrupt. I'm not sure I'll know what to look for, though.
robomartin 6y ago
> Only a slight exaggeration Here's a good one: Each SCE bill includes two added costs that are only added to your bill if you are in CPA, these are: "CCA Cost Responsibility Surcharge" and "CTC, NDC, PPPC". These two are calculated based on energy utilization. This amounts to $40 to $60 per month for the bills I have seen. Which, in turn, means it makes CPA bills no different from or more expensive than SCE bills. That's why I called it a scam. By now opting-out of CPA those two elements of the bill go away. What's just precious is that they place you in a "transitional" rate for six months. I place this kind of stuff in the category of unnecessary complexity added to people's lives for no reason at all. It provides no benefits at all (or questionable benefits), burns time and financial resources.

fortran77 6y ago

I opted out, too. I figured "It can't be without any downside as they say." I'm glad I did.

everybodyknows 6y ago
Might want to check city council records for hidden subsidies, covered of course by taxes on people like you and me.
- fortran77 6y ago
  Interesting. My (Sunnyvale, CA) city council is extremely corrupt. I'm not sure I'll know what to look for, though.

robomartin 6y ago

> Only a slight exaggeration Here's a good one: Each SCE bill includes two added costs that are only added to your bill if you are in CPA, these are: "CCA Cost Responsibility Surcharge" and "CTC, NDC, PPPC". These two are calculated based on energy utilization. This amounts to $40 to $60 per month for the bills I have seen. Which, in turn, means it makes CPA bills no different from or more expensive than SCE bills. That's why I called it a scam. By now opting-out of CPA those two elements of the bill go away. What's just precious is that they place you in a "transitional" rate for six months. I place this kind of stuff in the category of unnecessary complexity added to people's lives for no reason at all. It provides no benefits at all (or questionable benefits), burns time and financial resources.