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I guess I was groveling. This was my livelihood and I was employing 20+ people. I did not want to give up on this and have to tell the team our work and their j

I guess I was groveling. This was my livelihood and I was employing 20+ people. I did not want to give up on this and have to tell the team our work and their jobs were over. I tried to be honest and explain the situation, because I believed if Tim Cook understood what happened, he would make it right.

jrochkind1 6y ago
What happened to the company and the 20+ people? Did it indeed just wind down, everyone lost their job?
- mhafez17 6y ago
  Pretty much. Site still up, but only one part time publisher making very little to keep it afloat. Site is now loaded with Google ads (we used to have no ads on the site). I'm kind of embarrassed to show the site in its current form. It's 99% old content, and no maintenance is several years. It was the best time of my life in its heyday. The founders and dev team started a new company unrelated to apps. I tried my best to place our reviewers / curation team at other outlets. I had some success here, but it still pains me knowing that some of my previous team are still looking for something after all this time.
  - headmelted 6y ago
    GP. Seeing your response here has me appreciating your position in a way I didn’t above - given the circumstances and that you ultimately had to lay off your people I’m sorry for any offence caused. This must have been a rough time to work through. The point I was making, and which I think is valid in any case, is that it’s simply not safe to build a business that’s reliant upon the whims of another company that has shown time and again that it’s policies will change with the wind. Also, the web is still a wonderful platform with a bright future. Not least as PWAs aren’t subject to 30% taxes and subjective reviews!
  - chillfox 6y ago
    If you still have some involvement with the site then I would suggest moving to a premium ad network (Ezoic, Mediavine, AdThrive) instead of google.
  - vinnybad 6y ago
    You seem like a really good person. Thank you for being you :-).
hitekker 6y ago
FWIW, I don't think you were groveling. I think you were justly concerned with the livelihoods of your employees. The GP just didn't want to put in the effort to empathize with your struggle, so he tried to paint you as pathetic and stupid and therefore deserving of suffering.
- anonyanon 6y ago
  I actually think it's awesome that you went to bat for your employees.

jrochkind1 6y ago

What happened to the company and the 20+ people? Did it indeed just wind down, everyone lost their job?

mhafez17 6y ago
Pretty much. Site still up, but only one part time publisher making very little to keep it afloat. Site is now loaded with Google ads (we used to have no ads on the site). I'm kind of embarrassed to show the site in its current form. It's 99% old content, and no maintenance is several years. It was the best time of my life in its heyday. The founders and dev team started a new company unrelated to apps. I tried my best to place our reviewers / curation team at other outlets. I had some success here, but it still pains me knowing that some of my previous team are still looking for something after all this time.
- headmelted 6y ago
  GP. Seeing your response here has me appreciating your position in a way I didn’t above - given the circumstances and that you ultimately had to lay off your people I’m sorry for any offence caused. This must have been a rough time to work through. The point I was making, and which I think is valid in any case, is that it’s simply not safe to build a business that’s reliant upon the whims of another company that has shown time and again that it’s policies will change with the wind. Also, the web is still a wonderful platform with a bright future. Not least as PWAs aren’t subject to 30% taxes and subjective reviews!
- chillfox 6y ago
  If you still have some involvement with the site then I would suggest moving to a premium ad network (Ezoic, Mediavine, AdThrive) instead of google.
- vinnybad 6y ago
  You seem like a really good person. Thank you for being you :-).

hitekker 6y ago

FWIW, I don't think you were groveling. I think you were justly concerned with the livelihoods of your employees. The GP just didn't want to put in the effort to empathize with your struggle, so he tried to paint you as pathetic and stupid and therefore deserving of suffering.

anonyanon 6y ago
I actually think it's awesome that you went to bat for your employees.