> A level that is beyond that. A mind that observes your thinking mind. In the way I was taught mindfulness meditation, "equanimity" means observing without de

> A level that is beyond that. A mind that observes your thinking mind. In the way I was taught mindfulness meditation, "equanimity" means observing without desire. You do not seek pleasure, you do not flee from pain. It does seem to give that "level above" feeling you mention. I consider this the most valuable skill I have learned during my limited time meditating. > Mindfulness meditation is about practicing being in the present moment, nothing more than that. This seems false. Even your own comment follows the "nothing more that that" with a list of additional things. As I mentioned, I've found the skills that help me be aware of the present moment are more valuable than actually being aware of the present moment. I think of jogging. I hate jogging. Whenever I do it I am fully focused on the moment. Can I endure another 2 steps? And then another 2 steps? That's pretty focused on the moment. My desperate breaths, my aching side, that's living in the moment. Yet, it is not like meditating. I do not develop any of those skills you listed at the end of your comment when jogging. Thus, I think meditation is about the skills required to be in the present moment rather than actually being in the present moment. The detachment, the observing without desire, etc.