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I don't think they planned this well at all. It feels like rage fueled flailing they didn't think through. What is it going to do for Epic's cash flow if they'

by fooey 6y ago

I don't think they planned this well at all. It feels like rage fueled flailing they didn't think through. What is it going to do for Epic's cash flow if they're not allowed on any app stores for literal years while court cases filter through? What is it going to do for their game store and engine selling business to be indefinitely evicted from the Apple ecosystem entirely? Were I a company using Unreal Engine to develop a game, expecting to target Apple hardware, I would not be very happy about the stunts Tim Sweeney is pulling.

draw_down 6y ago
Cmon, they had a lawsuit and a commercial ready to go on the day they made their move.
whatever1 6y ago
Apple just showed that it is game developer hostile. Gamers will just migrate to whatever platform their games are available. Devs will lose tons of money, users will lose their investment in the ios ecosystem and apple will lose its cut. It’s a lose lose lose situation and Apple is the one to blame.
philistine 6y ago
At this point in the fight, Epic has not fired its biggest cannon: announcing that Unreal Engine 5 will not support any Apple hardware. So at this point, there is uncertainty, but no clear harm done to any developer using Unreal engine and currently targeting Mac hardware.
- fooey 6y ago
  Apple just did worse than that to them. Now developers can't even work on Unreal Engine from Apple hardware, and those developers aren't going to blame Apple for it happening.
- kllrnohj 6y ago
  UE5 not supporting any Apple hardware would hurt Epic far more than Apple as a result, as it would just drive mobile games back to Unity, which is already the market leader in the mobile space.
  - grumple 6y ago
    You sure about that? Apple already has a bad rep for software not working on Mac. Not many are gaming with macs. I own one game that's mac-compatible and it crashes a lot. Mac is great for dev and design/art related pursuits... and that's about it.
nafey 6y ago
There is nothing here that says the companies using Unreal Engine will be affected.
- fooey 6y ago
  There's a follow up tweet saying this would be catastrophic for their engine business https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/1295434558112960519 https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/1295434558112960519 > Epic says that included in the tools that Apple will revoke is the Unreal Engine that hundreds of third party developers use. "Apple’s actions will irreparably damage Epic’s reputation among Fortnite users and be catastrophic for the future of the separate Unreal Engine business"

by fooey 6y ago

draw_down 6y ago

Cmon, they had a lawsuit and a commercial ready to go on the day they made their move.

whatever1 6y ago

Apple just showed that it is game developer hostile. Gamers will just migrate to whatever platform their games are available. Devs will lose tons of money, users will lose their investment in the ios ecosystem and apple will lose its cut. It’s a lose lose lose situation and Apple is the one to blame.

philistine 6y ago

At this point in the fight, Epic has not fired its biggest cannon: announcing that Unreal Engine 5 will not support any Apple hardware. So at this point, there is uncertainty, but no clear harm done to any developer using Unreal engine and currently targeting Mac hardware.

fooey 6y ago
Apple just did worse than that to them. Now developers can't even work on Unreal Engine from Apple hardware, and those developers aren't going to blame Apple for it happening.
kllrnohj 6y ago
UE5 not supporting any Apple hardware would hurt Epic far more than Apple as a result, as it would just drive mobile games back to Unity, which is already the market leader in the mobile space.
- grumple 6y ago
  You sure about that? Apple already has a bad rep for software not working on Mac. Not many are gaming with macs. I own one game that's mac-compatible and it crashes a lot. Mac is great for dev and design/art related pursuits... and that's about it.

nafey 6y ago

There is nothing here that says the companies using Unreal Engine will be affected.

fooey 6y ago
There's a follow up tweet saying this would be catastrophic for their engine business https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/1295434558112960519 https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/1295434558112960519 > Epic says that included in the tools that Apple will revoke is the Unreal Engine that hundreds of third party developers use. "Apple’s actions will irreparably damage Epic’s reputation among Fortnite users and be catastrophic for the future of the separate Unreal Engine business"