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Why worry about the FBI if you're not in any of the categories where they have a reason to act? I doubt they care about your legal activities. They've probably

Why worry about the FBI if you're not in any of the categories where they have a reason to act? I doubt they care about your legal activities. They've probably got better things to do.

zingplex 6y ago
"Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say." -- Edward Snowden With regards to the FBI not caring about your legal activities, I recommend you look into the FBI blackmailing of Martin Luther King Jr. and COINTELPRO more generally. Their historic behavior doesn't exactly warrant trust.
- purplerabbit 6y ago
  Hiding something and expressing something are so nearly opposite that I don't see how Snowden's analogy holds
  - zingplex 6y ago
    What he is doing is simply restating the "I have nothing to hide" argument in the context of a different right, in this case the right to free speech. He is doing so to illustrate that the argument is not presenting a justification for the systemic violation of a human right but instead relying on an unstated assertion that the a given persons disinterest in a specific legal protection is an adequate pretext for its removal.
    - purplerabbit 6y ago
      That actually makes sense. Thank you for your reply.
      - zingplex 6y ago
        My pleasure
heavyset_go 6y ago
By existing in a database, not only can your data and actions be taken out of context to make a damning case against you, you run the risk of being a false positive in an investigation[1]. In the case dragnet surveillance, you will constantly become a suspect in investigations based on where you were, what you look like, etc. If your data doesn't exist in some database, at best you won't be caught up in a dragnet investigation. And at worst, your lack of data saves you from expensive court battles and imprisonment over something you didn't do. [1] https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/a-father-took-an-at-home-dna-test-his-son-was-falsely-accused-of-murder https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/a-father-took-an-at-home-d...
irrational 6y ago
Why do you assume my activities are legal?
zionic 6y ago
Username checks out.
FirstMatey80 6y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

Why worry about the FBI if you're not in any of the categories where they have a reason to act? I doubt they care about your legal activities. They've probably got better things to do.

zingplex 6y ago

"Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say." -- Edward Snowden With regards to the FBI not caring about your legal activities, I recommend you look into the FBI blackmailing of Martin Luther King Jr. and COINTELPRO more generally. Their historic behavior doesn't exactly warrant trust.

purplerabbit 6y ago
Hiding something and expressing something are so nearly opposite that I don't see how Snowden's analogy holds
- zingplex 6y ago
  What he is doing is simply restating the "I have nothing to hide" argument in the context of a different right, in this case the right to free speech. He is doing so to illustrate that the argument is not presenting a justification for the systemic violation of a human right but instead relying on an unstated assertion that the a given persons disinterest in a specific legal protection is an adequate pretext for its removal.
  - purplerabbit 6y ago
    That actually makes sense. Thank you for your reply.
    - zingplex 6y ago
      My pleasure

heavyset_go 6y ago

By existing in a database, not only can your data and actions be taken out of context to make a damning case against you, you run the risk of being a false positive in an investigation[1]. In the case dragnet surveillance, you will constantly become a suspect in investigations based on where you were, what you look like, etc. If your data doesn't exist in some database, at best you won't be caught up in a dragnet investigation. And at worst, your lack of data saves you from expensive court battles and imprisonment over something you didn't do. [1] https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/a-father-took-an-at-home-dna-test-his-son-was-falsely-accused-of-murder https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/a-father-took-an-at-home-d...

irrational 6y ago

Why do you assume my activities are legal?

zionic 6y ago

Username checks out.

FirstMatey80 6y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO