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Correct. It's been perfectly legal since 2010. >The U.S. Librarian of Congress ruled on Monday that consumers who circumvent digital protections on smartphone

Correct. It's been perfectly legal since 2010. >The U.S. Librarian of Congress ruled on Monday that consumers who circumvent digital protections on smartphones to install unapproved applications—a practice often colloquially known as “jailbreaking”—for noninfringing reasons should be exempted from prosecution under the anti-circumvention section of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). https://www.macworld.com/article/1152935/jailbreak_exemption.html https://www.macworld.com/article/1152935/jailbreak_exemption...

syshum 6y ago
That exception is for Smart Phones, and I think has expired even This would not apply to something like Prima Cimea, nor a John Deere Tractor, or 1000's of other things. Also the wording of the exception bu LoC was very open to interpretation and not as powerful as people commonly think
d1zzy 6y ago
Yes, the "consumers" should be exempted, not anyone selling solutions to do this or just giving them up for free. Which essentially means that unless you are an uber hacker that does this for their iPhones, nobody else can do it. It's pretty pointless in practice.
- GeekyBear 6y ago
  You don't have to be any sort of hacker. A jailbreaking app like Checkra1n will step you through the process. https://www.idownloadblog.com/2019/11/10/how-to-jailbreak-with-the-checkra1n-public-beta/ https://www.idownloadblog.com/2019/11/10/how-to-jailbreak-wi...
saurik 6y ago
If you can figure it out, you can jailbreak it; but there is no reason why jailbreaking a device is inherently possible: jailbreaks for iOS are happening later and later in the boot cycle and so are more and more limited, and we have had a single bootrom exploit in like a decade. If you want to be able to jailbreak a device it must be illegal to lock it down like that, not merely legal for someone to figure out how to maybe break the lock after you build it.
- GeekyBear 6y ago
  >If you want to be able to jailbreak a device it must be illegal to lock it down like that I'm not sure why you're putting this in terms of iOS, since many Android devices also ship with a locked bootloader. >there is no reason why jailbreaking a device is inherently possible Any iDevice with an A11 or earlier has an unpatchable bootloader flaw that absolutely makes it inherently jailbreakable. Apple cannot prevent you from jailbreaking those devices, nor can it patch the flaw with a future version of the OS. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/09/developer-of-checkm8-explains-why-idevice-jailbreak-exploit-is-a-game-changer/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/09/devel...

syshum 6y ago

That exception is for Smart Phones, and I think has expired even This would not apply to something like Prima Cimea, nor a John Deere Tractor, or 1000's of other things. Also the wording of the exception bu LoC was very open to interpretation and not as powerful as people commonly think

d1zzy 6y ago

Yes, the "consumers" should be exempted, not anyone selling solutions to do this or just giving them up for free. Which essentially means that unless you are an uber hacker that does this for their iPhones, nobody else can do it. It's pretty pointless in practice.

GeekyBear 6y ago
You don't have to be any sort of hacker. A jailbreaking app like Checkra1n will step you through the process. https://www.idownloadblog.com/2019/11/10/how-to-jailbreak-with-the-checkra1n-public-beta/ https://www.idownloadblog.com/2019/11/10/how-to-jailbreak-wi...

saurik 6y ago

If you can figure it out, you can jailbreak it; but there is no reason why jailbreaking a device is inherently possible: jailbreaks for iOS are happening later and later in the boot cycle and so are more and more limited, and we have had a single bootrom exploit in like a decade. If you want to be able to jailbreak a device it must be illegal to lock it down like that, not merely legal for someone to figure out how to maybe break the lock after you build it.

GeekyBear 6y ago
>If you want to be able to jailbreak a device it must be illegal to lock it down like that I'm not sure why you're putting this in terms of iOS, since many Android devices also ship with a locked bootloader. >there is no reason why jailbreaking a device is inherently possible Any iDevice with an A11 or earlier has an unpatchable bootloader flaw that absolutely makes it inherently jailbreakable. Apple cannot prevent you from jailbreaking those devices, nor can it patch the flaw with a future version of the OS. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/09/developer-of-checkm8-explains-why-idevice-jailbreak-exploit-is-a-game-changer/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/09/devel...