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As with all numbers coming out of the CCP - a healthy dose of skepticism is required. Just like with the Soviet Union's Politburo - all stats and numbers are cu

by Alupis 6y ago

As with all numbers coming out of the CCP - a healthy dose of skepticism is required. Just like with the Soviet Union's Politburo - all stats and numbers are curated to fit the public face the CCP wishes to present for global consumption. A good rule of thumb when dealing with the CCP - multiply or divided all publicly-released stats and numbers by 10 to get closer to reality.

La1n 6y ago
Your previous comment that said this is flagged and dead. It's not good practice to repost it, even if you add a bit of text that is still not fact based.
- Alupis 6y ago
  > even if you add a bit of text that is still not fact based It seems shilling for the CCP is easy to do when you refuse to recognize the credibility problem of CCP data sources. We've seen these types on HN before. The ones who's accounts are 90% filled with Pro CCP comments - clearly shilling for the CCP. Ones like yours, La1n. CCP lies about the number of COVID-19 deaths - lies about how it spread - lies about GDP growth, lies about militarization of manmade islands in international waters, lies about ongoing religious persecutions, Uighurs and more, etc. The list is endless. But, they want us to believe their numbers about fishing boats? Doesn't matter how this article came to their numbers independently - the CCP Official Numbers are the only numbers to be trusted?
  - dang 6y ago
    You can't attack other users like this on HN. The poison of imaginary accusations of astroturfing/shilling (and believe me, they are almost all imaginary—I've looked at this data closely and it's impossible to come to any other conclusion) does vastly more damage to this site than the phenomena you're complaining about. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and don't post like this again. This was a particularly bad case. I've written a great deal about this if you want some explanation about why we moderate HN this way (no, it's not because we're secret Communists): https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=true&page=0&query=astroturf%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme... https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&type=comment&dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=chin%20by%3Adang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&type=comment&dateRange=a...

by Alupis 6y ago

La1n 6y ago

Your previous comment that said this is flagged and dead. It's not good practice to repost it, even if you add a bit of text that is still not fact based.

Alupis 6y ago
> even if you add a bit of text that is still not fact based It seems shilling for the CCP is easy to do when you refuse to recognize the credibility problem of CCP data sources. We've seen these types on HN before. The ones who's accounts are 90% filled with Pro CCP comments - clearly shilling for the CCP. Ones like yours, La1n. CCP lies about the number of COVID-19 deaths - lies about how it spread - lies about GDP growth, lies about militarization of manmade islands in international waters, lies about ongoing religious persecutions, Uighurs and more, etc. The list is endless. But, they want us to believe their numbers about fishing boats? Doesn't matter how this article came to their numbers independently - the CCP Official Numbers are the only numbers to be trusted?
- dang 6y ago
  You can't attack other users like this on HN. The poison of imaginary accusations of astroturfing/shilling (and believe me, they are almost all imaginary—I've looked at this data closely and it's impossible to come to any other conclusion) does vastly more damage to this site than the phenomena you're complaining about. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and don't post like this again. This was a particularly bad case. I've written a great deal about this if you want some explanation about why we moderate HN this way (no, it's not because we're secret Communists): https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=true&page=0&query=astroturf%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme... https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&type=comment&dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=chin%20by%3Adang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&type=comment&dateRange=a...