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It's weird how Epic has no problem with closed hardware consoles...

by turtlesdown11 6y ago

baby 6y ago
Do these take a 30% cut from online purchases as well?
- wmf 6y ago
  Yes.
sdsvsdgggggg 6y ago
How big of a cut do they have to pay on closed hardware consoles?
- pwinnski 6y ago
  30%, amazingly enough.
jayd16 6y ago
I'm sure they do but the situation is a bit different. Its a bigger leap for the consoles to implement a third party store than Apple. They don't allow unsigned code on consumer devices and the cert process is even more entailed than Apple. There's no tooling or infrastructure to install third party apps onto the consoles outside of the first party store. Apple has a ready made developer flow that is artificially blocked through provisioning profiles and the like.
wpurvis 6y ago
If I wanted a PS4 game I could go to gamestop or walmart and buy it. I can buy games used. As closed as consoles are there's much more choice in where you get your software than iOS devices.
- pwinnski 6y ago
  Regardless of where you buy it, Sony takes a cut--unless you buy used. And IAP, which is the subject under discussion, is 100% through Sony, and Sony still gets 30%.
AlexandrB 6y ago
This is what screams "publicity stunt" to me. Especially the 2-tier pricing in the iOS app, whereas on consoles everyone[1] got the 20% discount even though Epic is still paying Sony/Microsoft their 30% cut. [1] https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/en-US/news/the-fortnite-mega-drop-permanent-discounts-up-to-20-percent https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/en-US/news/the-fortnite-m...
mthoms 6y ago
The counter argument (from the article). Emphasis mine. >[smartphones are] not a console you play to entertain yourself, or even a PC for work: it is the foundation of modern life IMHO, this is a perfectly valid argument. To be clear, I have no idea how that could be legislated, nor do I necessarily think it should be. I'm only saying that it's easy to see why they aren't the same thing.

It's weird how Epic has no problem with closed hardware consoles...

baby 6y ago

Do these take a 30% cut from online purchases as well?

wmf 6y ago
Yes.

sdsvsdgggggg 6y ago

How big of a cut do they have to pay on closed hardware consoles?

pwinnski 6y ago
30%, amazingly enough.

jayd16 6y ago

I'm sure they do but the situation is a bit different. Its a bigger leap for the consoles to implement a third party store than Apple. They don't allow unsigned code on consumer devices and the cert process is even more entailed than Apple. There's no tooling or infrastructure to install third party apps onto the consoles outside of the first party store. Apple has a ready made developer flow that is artificially blocked through provisioning profiles and the like.

wpurvis 6y ago

If I wanted a PS4 game I could go to gamestop or walmart and buy it. I can buy games used. As closed as consoles are there's much more choice in where you get your software than iOS devices.

pwinnski 6y ago
Regardless of where you buy it, Sony takes a cut--unless you buy used. And IAP, which is the subject under discussion, is 100% through Sony, and Sony still gets 30%.

AlexandrB 6y ago

This is what screams "publicity stunt" to me. Especially the 2-tier pricing in the iOS app, whereas on consoles everyone[1] got the 20% discount even though Epic is still paying Sony/Microsoft their 30% cut. [1] https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/en-US/news/the-fortnite-mega-drop-permanent-discounts-up-to-20-percent https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/en-US/news/the-fortnite-m...

mthoms 6y ago

The counter argument (from the article). Emphasis mine. >[smartphones are] not a console you play to entertain yourself, or even a PC for work: it is the foundation of modern life IMHO, this is a perfectly valid argument. To be clear, I have no idea how that could be legislated, nor do I necessarily think it should be. I'm only saying that it's easy to see why they aren't the same thing.