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Are you Australian? Because I'd be a little surprised if you'd be saying that if you had a lot of exposure to our media.. Especially given the quality (or lack

Are you Australian? Because I'd be a little surprised if you'd be saying that if you had a lot of exposure to our media.. Especially given the quality (or lack thereof) of our mainstream "news" sources, and the fact that this specifically cuts out ABC, SBS or most independent sources... 70% of the commercial media here is controlled by one American company, and perhaps not coincidentally they have a very close relationship with the Government. The Government has literally just given their cable network $40 million dollars over the last few budgets, completely un-tendered and without any reporting requirements or anything, to "help advance women's sport" - even though 75% of Australians aren't subscribers and SBS would be a better venue for such content...

clouddrover 6y ago
> Because I'd be a little surprised if you'd be saying that given the quality of our mainstream "news" sources So your solution is to make them even worse by letting Google bleed them dry? What percentage of Australian's news reading goes through Google? What percentage of Australia's advertising spend does Google command?
- stephen_g 6y ago
  Sure. Let them die - that ship has sailed. News Ltd and Nine have destroyed most of the quality journalism on their platforms already, and I honestly don't think anything this bill proposes will make it better. I don't have all the answers, but the best way I think I can support quality journalism is to subscribe to some independent news sites now (Michael West, MacroBusiness, Anthony Klan's new site The Klaxon. Might think about Crikey too because it seems pretty good).
  - clouddrover 6y ago
    You mean those journalists who spent decades working for News Corp papers? Michael West did. Anthony Klan did. Anthony Klan is proud of his News Corporation Australia journalist of the year awards. Seems like News Corp helped them both get started. Why shouldn't News Corp continue to fund others as well?
    - bryan_w 6y ago
      Not if they don't innovate. Music TV and movies have had to do so in the last 20 years, I don't see why news should be different.
      - clouddrover 6y ago
        What is the innovation you expect to see when Google siphons off their revenue?

clouddrover 6y ago

> Because I'd be a little surprised if you'd be saying that given the quality of our mainstream "news" sources So your solution is to make them even worse by letting Google bleed them dry? What percentage of Australian's news reading goes through Google? What percentage of Australia's advertising spend does Google command?

stephen_g 6y ago
Sure. Let them die - that ship has sailed. News Ltd and Nine have destroyed most of the quality journalism on their platforms already, and I honestly don't think anything this bill proposes will make it better. I don't have all the answers, but the best way I think I can support quality journalism is to subscribe to some independent news sites now (Michael West, MacroBusiness, Anthony Klan's new site The Klaxon. Might think about Crikey too because it seems pretty good).
- clouddrover 6y ago
  You mean those journalists who spent decades working for News Corp papers? Michael West did. Anthony Klan did. Anthony Klan is proud of his News Corporation Australia journalist of the year awards. Seems like News Corp helped them both get started. Why shouldn't News Corp continue to fund others as well?
  - bryan_w 6y ago
    Not if they don't innovate. Music TV and movies have had to do so in the last 20 years, I don't see why news should be different.
    - clouddrover 6y ago
      What is the innovation you expect to see when Google siphons off their revenue?