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As much as I love to see it, I don't see the damage. Users have a choice these days to even download/install a free! OS. This is a clear case of vote with your

As much as I love to see it, I don't see the damage. Users have a choice these days to even download/install a free! OS. This is a clear case of vote with your wallets. There are TONs of Operating systems, why stick with Microsoft at this point?

chha 6y ago
There are lots of possible choices, but if you depend on software not available on other platforms, it doesn't matter. If Microsoft doesn't do their job once properly notified, they deserve a slap on the wrist.
- dwrowe 6y ago
  Maybe if the exploit is actually leveraged to cause damages. Outside of that, you think they should get fined because the possibility for exploit is there? Edit: missing clarity - I think fines are appropriate when/if damage occurs, my reply was based on if notification happens without actively being exploited.
  - sukilot 6y ago
    The OP reports exploits in the wild.
ksm1717 6y ago
The problem with “the market will sort itself” takes like this is that the market is not as efficient and elastic as we ideally hope. It, first of all, assumes that everyone has the ability and knowledge to pick the operating system that is best for them. Things like marketing, personally critical (but platform dependent) software (as the other child comment says), market share, and previously formed platform comfort all influence the decisions that users and developers make regarding OS. Not to mention that possibility that someone needs to use two different operating systems for two different tasks. If everyone at once decided that they were no longer using windows, it’s not controversial that there would at least still be a massive amount of work and time to shift every legacy on windows to another platform. Even in this most extreme example of the market shifting, windows still has the security issues for the transition timeframe that the market alone can’t solve.
- ksk 6y ago
  Can you explain why you are claiming this as a "problem"? There is no reason to think that anyone is qualified to tell others what products they should or shouldn't buy. The idea that people need to be "saved" from making wrong purchasing decisions is abhorrent.
  - strbean 6y ago
    > There is no reason to think that anyone is qualified to tell others what products they should or shouldn't buy. What nonsense is this?! Do you maybe mean "can or can't buy"? Otherwise, I don't see how this statement can be parsed such that it isn't obviously incorrect.

chha 6y ago

There are lots of possible choices, but if you depend on software not available on other platforms, it doesn't matter. If Microsoft doesn't do their job once properly notified, they deserve a slap on the wrist.

dwrowe 6y ago
Maybe if the exploit is actually leveraged to cause damages. Outside of that, you think they should get fined because the possibility for exploit is there? Edit: missing clarity - I think fines are appropriate when/if damage occurs, my reply was based on if notification happens without actively being exploited.
- sukilot 6y ago
  The OP reports exploits in the wild.

ksm1717 6y ago

The problem with “the market will sort itself” takes like this is that the market is not as efficient and elastic as we ideally hope. It, first of all, assumes that everyone has the ability and knowledge to pick the operating system that is best for them. Things like marketing, personally critical (but platform dependent) software (as the other child comment says), market share, and previously formed platform comfort all influence the decisions that users and developers make regarding OS. Not to mention that possibility that someone needs to use two different operating systems for two different tasks. If everyone at once decided that they were no longer using windows, it’s not controversial that there would at least still be a massive amount of work and time to shift every legacy on windows to another platform. Even in this most extreme example of the market shifting, windows still has the security issues for the transition timeframe that the market alone can’t solve.

ksk 6y ago
Can you explain why you are claiming this as a "problem"? There is no reason to think that anyone is qualified to tell others what products they should or shouldn't buy. The idea that people need to be "saved" from making wrong purchasing decisions is abhorrent.
- strbean 6y ago
  > There is no reason to think that anyone is qualified to tell others what products they should or shouldn't buy. What nonsense is this?! Do you maybe mean "can or can't buy"? Otherwise, I don't see how this statement can be parsed such that it isn't obviously incorrect.