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True, I do talk to many vendors related to hardware purchase. But, it usually is about the hardware I want, after I already made up my mind about what fits into

True, I do talk to many vendors related to hardware purchase. But, it usually is about the hardware I want, after I already made up my mind about what fits into our budget and matches our need. IBM is usually not even in consideration because I cant even get a ballpark estimate of what these things practically cost (I can get some $ figures from Googling forums but it is not really of my interest). To give you an idea, I can log in into a local vendor's website, for example, https://www.atea.dk/eshop/products/?filters=S_sr650 https://www.atea.dk/eshop/products/?filters=S_sr650 and quickly get an idea of what an SR650 Lenovo rack server would cost me. My configurations would obviously change the cost, which is where I talk to the vendor to get the real costs.

jacquesm 6y ago
That's not how IBM works or how they have ever worked. The whole idea here is to put you in touch with their sales organization who will put some effort into determining what the best way of fleecing you is.
- TheOtherHobbes 6y ago
  "Consultancy"
- gnufx 6y ago
  But if you want a small GNU/Linux POWER system, you don't talk to IBM, surely. Ours came from OCF in the UK; they might even operate in Denmark. You won't see a price on the web site, but realistically you don't expect a list price from Dell for your x86 server systems -- at least in my experience. If you talk to them nicely, they may give you an evaluation unit. We once paid £1 for a potent Interlagos system that didn't go back. I'm not saying talking to sales people is necessarily a pleasant and easy task, of course, especially as you typically need to know more about it than they do.
erk__ 6y ago
The only place I have heard about POWER being used in Denmark is at the military, but I guess it exists elsewhere as well. Though I could see that the big orders in the public sector comes through procurement. Compared to private companies asking around.
- kjs3 6y ago
  Banking tends to be a big Power user. I bet even in Denmark that's true. :-)
tgflynn 6y ago
https://www.ibm.com/products/power-system-s922/pricing https://www.ibm.com/products/power-system-s922/pricing

jacquesm 6y ago

That's not how IBM works or how they have ever worked. The whole idea here is to put you in touch with their sales organization who will put some effort into determining what the best way of fleecing you is.

TheOtherHobbes 6y ago
"Consultancy"
gnufx 6y ago
But if you want a small GNU/Linux POWER system, you don't talk to IBM, surely. Ours came from OCF in the UK; they might even operate in Denmark. You won't see a price on the web site, but realistically you don't expect a list price from Dell for your x86 server systems -- at least in my experience. If you talk to them nicely, they may give you an evaluation unit. We once paid £1 for a potent Interlagos system that didn't go back. I'm not saying talking to sales people is necessarily a pleasant and easy task, of course, especially as you typically need to know more about it than they do.

erk__ 6y ago

The only place I have heard about POWER being used in Denmark is at the military, but I guess it exists elsewhere as well. Though I could see that the big orders in the public sector comes through procurement. Compared to private companies asking around.

kjs3 6y ago
Banking tends to be a big Power user. I bet even in Denmark that's true. :-)

tgflynn 6y ago

https://www.ibm.com/products/power-system-s922/pricing https://www.ibm.com/products/power-system-s922/pricing