Yep, swing is still always within the same timing window and doesn't fluctuate. I mean yeah your 8th note repeating midi hihats with swing won't hit the beat wi

Yep, swing is still always within the same timing window and doesn't fluctuate. I mean yeah your 8th note repeating midi hihats with swing won't hit the beat with a perfect precision but the interval between the notes will still remain the same. Beats with swing can still sound mechanic. The humanizing features OP mentions (like what Ableton live has) introduces random amounts of shifting timings or velocity, which is very different. If you want swing, you'll still have to add that separately.