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The librem phone is $750 and the pinephone is $150.

by Y_Y 6y ago

input_sh 6y ago
Also a crucial difference: You can get your hands on a Pine Phone, while Librem has yet to ship a phone.
- fsflover 6y ago
  There are nevertheless reasons to consider Librem 5: https://forums.puri.sm/t/comparing-specs-of-upcoming-linux-phones/6827 https://forums.puri.sm/t/comparing-specs-of-upcoming-linux-p...
- kop316 6y ago
  ??? They have shipped a number of phones? Or do you mean they haven't entered production?
  - input_sh 6y ago
    Yes, "shipped" refers to in the hands of customers.
    - kop316 6y ago
      I mean, I am holding one right now, and I am a customer (Well technically it's next to my laptop, typing with one hand is hard). So I don't understand what you mean.
- nabilhat 6y ago
  Pine is using the Pinephone as a workbench to build open source, Purism is using open source as a workbench to build a phone. I'm not applying either of those negatively. In either case, I think one gets what they pay for and a delivery timeline to match.
kop316 6y ago
With the Librem Phone, the extra money is also paying for the development of the software ecosystem. I would argue that's worth the investment. For reference, a lot of the Pinephone distros are using the software developed by Purism. I am not saying that's bad, thats the whole spirit of open source!
- syshum 6y ago
  PinePhone appears to come with PostmarketOS, and they give a small amount of every sale to PostmarketOS. Other than PureOS what other "pinephone distros" are using Purism Software? On top of that, how much of "Purism Software" is upstream linux?
  - kop316 6y ago
    Both PostmarketOS (if you use the phosh env) and Mobian use phosh, proc, chatty, libhandy, squeekboard, and a number of Purism packages. Mobian would take a lot more work (and likely would not exist) if they did not take advantage of Purism's work. Feel free to go through https://puri.sm/posts/ https://puri.sm/posts/ to see their documentation of what they contribute, but here is one post I choose arbitrarily: https://puri.sm/posts/librem-5-may-2020-software-development-update/ https://puri.sm/posts/librem-5-may-2020-software-development... Note the "Linux Kernel" section. Here's another one: https://puri.sm/posts/librem-5-june-2020-software-development-update/ https://puri.sm/posts/librem-5-june-2020-software-developmen... Also note the "Linux Kernel" section.
  - fsflover 6y ago
    "Phosh is current available on 8 different mobile distros that have been ported to the PinePhone, and Phosh is the preferred DE on 7 of those 8." https://amosbbatto.wordpress.com/2020/08/05/advantages-of-phosh/ https://amosbbatto.wordpress.com/2020/08/05/advantages-of-ph... The list of those distros is in the link.
  - glglwty 6y ago
    I think they upstreamed patches to gnome and wlroots

The librem phone is $750 and the pinephone is $150.

by Y_Y 6y ago

The librem phone is $750 and the pinephone is $150.

input_sh 6y ago

Also a crucial difference: You can get your hands on a Pine Phone, while Librem has yet to ship a phone.

fsflover 6y ago
There are nevertheless reasons to consider Librem 5: https://forums.puri.sm/t/comparing-specs-of-upcoming-linux-phones/6827 https://forums.puri.sm/t/comparing-specs-of-upcoming-linux-p...
kop316 6y ago
??? They have shipped a number of phones? Or do you mean they haven't entered production?
- input_sh 6y ago
  Yes, "shipped" refers to in the hands of customers.
  - kop316 6y ago
    I mean, I am holding one right now, and I am a customer (Well technically it's next to my laptop, typing with one hand is hard). So I don't understand what you mean.
nabilhat 6y ago
Pine is using the Pinephone as a workbench to build open source, Purism is using open source as a workbench to build a phone. I'm not applying either of those negatively. In either case, I think one gets what they pay for and a delivery timeline to match.

kop316 6y ago

With the Librem Phone, the extra money is also paying for the development of the software ecosystem. I would argue that's worth the investment. For reference, a lot of the Pinephone distros are using the software developed by Purism. I am not saying that's bad, thats the whole spirit of open source!

syshum 6y ago
PinePhone appears to come with PostmarketOS, and they give a small amount of every sale to PostmarketOS. Other than PureOS what other "pinephone distros" are using Purism Software? On top of that, how much of "Purism Software" is upstream linux?
- kop316 6y ago
  Both PostmarketOS (if you use the phosh env) and Mobian use phosh, proc, chatty, libhandy, squeekboard, and a number of Purism packages. Mobian would take a lot more work (and likely would not exist) if they did not take advantage of Purism's work. Feel free to go through https://puri.sm/posts/ https://puri.sm/posts/ to see their documentation of what they contribute, but here is one post I choose arbitrarily: https://puri.sm/posts/librem-5-may-2020-software-development-update/ https://puri.sm/posts/librem-5-may-2020-software-development... Note the "Linux Kernel" section. Here's another one: https://puri.sm/posts/librem-5-june-2020-software-development-update/ https://puri.sm/posts/librem-5-june-2020-software-developmen... Also note the "Linux Kernel" section.
- fsflover 6y ago
  "Phosh is current available on 8 different mobile distros that have been ported to the PinePhone, and Phosh is the preferred DE on 7 of those 8." https://amosbbatto.wordpress.com/2020/08/05/advantages-of-phosh/ https://amosbbatto.wordpress.com/2020/08/05/advantages-of-ph... The list of those distros is in the link.
- glglwty 6y ago
  I think they upstreamed patches to gnome and wlroots