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Yes, hence the caveat. :) For my purposes (set up a simple blog and get it running), I truly don't think that I need, or should, have to learn the ins and outs

by mdu96 6y ago

Yes, hence the caveat. :) For my purposes (set up a simple blog and get it running), I truly don't think that I need, or should, have to learn the ins and outs of the tech stack. In fact I chose WordPress specifically _because_ I wanted it to abstract most of the implementation details away from me. I don't think this is true for development generally.

frereubu 6y ago
Perhaps it wasn't intended, but the post read as a complaint that it wasn't easy, but self-hosted WordPress (i.e. wordpress.org rather than wordpress.com) doesn't sell itself as a one-click install CMS. (Although there are things like MAMP that allow you to delegate the basic server setup).
macspoofing 6y ago
>For my purposes (set up a simple blog and get it running), I truly don't think that I need, or should, have to learn the ins and outs of the tech stack. Well ... if you want a simple blog, then you can setup an account with the 10million hosted blogging services that are out there. And if you want a wordpress blog, then you can set up an account with wordpress.com, or get a hosted solution with Wordpress/LAMP already preinstalled, or get a VM with Wordpress pre-configured (e.g. Vagrant Box with Wordpress: https://themeisle.com/blog/vagrant-wordpress/ https://themeisle.com/blog/vagrant-wordpress/). What you wanted however, was a locally hosted Wordpress (why?) that you installed and configured (on Windows no less). That's fine, but Wordpress requires PHP, and requires a web-server, and requires a database - so you'll have to be able to understand what all those pieces are in order to install and configure them together. >In fact I chose WordPress specifically _because_ I wanted it to abstract most of the implementation details away from me. Which it does. There is a difference between being a user of Wordpress and installing and administrating Wordpress. For the former, understanding the tech stack is not required. The UI is meant to be used by non-tech savvy people. For the latter, yeah, you need to be familiar with the tech stack. That you're not, and you had some trouble installing it, that's not the fault of Wordpress.

by mdu96 6y ago

frereubu 6y ago

Perhaps it wasn't intended, but the post read as a complaint that it wasn't easy, but self-hosted WordPress (i.e. wordpress.org rather than wordpress.com) doesn't sell itself as a one-click install CMS. (Although there are things like MAMP that allow you to delegate the basic server setup).

macspoofing 6y ago

>For my purposes (set up a simple blog and get it running), I truly don't think that I need, or should, have to learn the ins and outs of the tech stack. Well ... if you want a simple blog, then you can setup an account with the 10million hosted blogging services that are out there. And if you want a wordpress blog, then you can set up an account with wordpress.com, or get a hosted solution with Wordpress/LAMP already preinstalled, or get a VM with Wordpress pre-configured (e.g. Vagrant Box with Wordpress: https://themeisle.com/blog/vagrant-wordpress/ https://themeisle.com/blog/vagrant-wordpress/). What you wanted however, was a locally hosted Wordpress (why?) that you installed and configured (on Windows no less). That's fine, but Wordpress requires PHP, and requires a web-server, and requires a database - so you'll have to be able to understand what all those pieces are in order to install and configure them together. >In fact I chose WordPress specifically _because_ I wanted it to abstract most of the implementation details away from me. Which it does. There is a difference between being a user of Wordpress and installing and administrating Wordpress. For the former, understanding the tech stack is not required. The UI is meant to be used by non-tech savvy people. For the latter, yeah, you need to be familiar with the tech stack. That you're not, and you had some trouble installing it, that's not the fault of Wordpress.