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I don't expect you to provide references as part of our discussion. Just your well-argued opinion is enough to move the thread along. But I find Zinnia problem

I don't expect you to provide references as part of our discussion. Just your well-argued opinion is enough to move the thread along. But I find Zinnia problematic because her playing researcher has the potential to cause harm to others. Plus I wasn't referring to her joke, I was referring to the part where she attempted to shame cis guys into not excluding trans women, which is obviously useful for her, but also obviously manipulative and if she was successful, it might make other people unnecessarily unhappy. Since she gave interviews about it, I am also reasonably confident that it wasn't a joke. I would say it is fair to judge a self-proclaimed activist by their actions, and hers were of the kind that I would not be able to support her statements in good conscience, even though I support the cause of treating everyone fairly in general.

sascha_sl 6y ago
Zinnia is entitled to her opinion, and at no point was anything in her article implied to adhere to scientific standards. It's a discussion piece, and a piece that might be helpful for those that are considering transition. Usually HN is not so hot on theoretical harm that speech can cause. It also has nothing to do with the content of the article, so I'd appreciate if you didn't try to disregard her speech with unrelated information, so to speak cancel her. I don't believe in cancel culture being real, but the last time someone on HR pointed out someone was a TERF they got dead-flagged, so better not go there. Anyway, if you just wanted more studies, you could've just let me known. I was not expecting to be attacked on the impact factor or size of the citation pool - I was aiming to provide a study with an easy to read abstract, but have a few studies that are strong in at least one of those factors. Neurology: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2754583/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2754583/ https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022395610003250?via%3Dihub https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00223... https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022395610001585 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00223... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4585501/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4585501/ And the "transition is beneficial" master list: https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-well-being-of-transgender-people/ https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equali...

sascha_sl 6y ago

Zinnia is entitled to her opinion, and at no point was anything in her article implied to adhere to scientific standards. It's a discussion piece, and a piece that might be helpful for those that are considering transition. Usually HN is not so hot on theoretical harm that speech can cause. It also has nothing to do with the content of the article, so I'd appreciate if you didn't try to disregard her speech with unrelated information, so to speak cancel her. I don't believe in cancel culture being real, but the last time someone on HR pointed out someone was a TERF they got dead-flagged, so better not go there. Anyway, if you just wanted more studies, you could've just let me known. I was not expecting to be attacked on the impact factor or size of the citation pool - I was aiming to provide a study with an easy to read abstract, but have a few studies that are strong in at least one of those factors. Neurology: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2754583/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2754583/ https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022395610003250?via%3Dihub https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00223... https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022395610001585 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00223... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4585501/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4585501/ And the "transition is beneficial" master list: https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-well-being-of-transgender-people/ https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equali...