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Interestingly this seems to only cover people who don't have kids. Do you think people with kids are stuck in SF, or have they moved out much earlier?

serbrech 6y ago
we have a kid, and are moving, for what it's worth. If you are in the bay just because of work, and you have a kid, that means your kid is not seeing family very much due to travel restrictions and the overall covid situation. So rather than it being a blocker, it's really an extra incentive to move.
captaincole 6y ago
Good question. The two considerations I would say here are 1) Rent vs own - everyone i know in the own category is staying for now, and actually exhibiting the opposite tendencies and digging in for the long haul 2) School is now officially going full remote. This was a unknown for many families and now we will see what they choose to do.
- ryandrake 6y ago
  The only thing keeping me in the Bay Area right now is my mortgage. I envy you renters who can just leave at the end of your leases! With work from home and school from home, there is no reason to physically stay in the Bay Area. We might as well move to an RV in the Nevada desert. $200/acre and I get as much benefit (nothing) from zero income tax there as I do in CA at 10%.
analog31 6y ago
Oddly enough a traditional risk of moving with kids is the "lost year" due to the disruption of changing school districts. But this year is going to be lost anyway, and a 100% certainty is no longer a risk. And if school is going to be online anyway, then they could stay plugged into the old district until they get fully plugged into the new one.
- nsnick 6y ago
  What is typically lost when a child changes schools?
SmellTheGlove 6y ago
I have a school-aged child. I have an offer from another startup in a different city and am likely to take it. We love our school here - it's one of the better ones in the SFUSD system - but with everything being remote, as well as the district kneecapping just about anything our parents and support orgs want to fund to help kids, its becoming a wash in terms of quality. Plus, with everything starting remotely, the fact that school starts tomorrow doesn't really matter. Even for a school with a strong sense of community, in which us as parents are deeply involved, it still feels fairly impersonal. My own child is pretty indifferent as to where they go to school at this point. That said, sticking it out isn't the wrong call either. This is a great city, it's just that with everything related to COVID, its becoming less worth it.
option 6y ago
people with kids either did not move to SF or left earlier. I have several friends (with kids) who moved out of SF before pandemic due to crime/safety concerns. Mostly in 2018/2019
austhrow743 6y ago
SF has the lowest amount of kids of any major US city.

serbrech 6y ago

we have a kid, and are moving, for what it's worth. If you are in the bay just because of work, and you have a kid, that means your kid is not seeing family very much due to travel restrictions and the overall covid situation. So rather than it being a blocker, it's really an extra incentive to move.

captaincole 6y ago

Good question. The two considerations I would say here are 1) Rent vs own - everyone i know in the own category is staying for now, and actually exhibiting the opposite tendencies and digging in for the long haul 2) School is now officially going full remote. This was a unknown for many families and now we will see what they choose to do.

ryandrake 6y ago
The only thing keeping me in the Bay Area right now is my mortgage. I envy you renters who can just leave at the end of your leases! With work from home and school from home, there is no reason to physically stay in the Bay Area. We might as well move to an RV in the Nevada desert. $200/acre and I get as much benefit (nothing) from zero income tax there as I do in CA at 10%.

analog31 6y ago

Oddly enough a traditional risk of moving with kids is the "lost year" due to the disruption of changing school districts. But this year is going to be lost anyway, and a 100% certainty is no longer a risk. And if school is going to be online anyway, then they could stay plugged into the old district until they get fully plugged into the new one.

nsnick 6y ago
What is typically lost when a child changes schools?

SmellTheGlove 6y ago

I have a school-aged child. I have an offer from another startup in a different city and am likely to take it. We love our school here - it's one of the better ones in the SFUSD system - but with everything being remote, as well as the district kneecapping just about anything our parents and support orgs want to fund to help kids, its becoming a wash in terms of quality. Plus, with everything starting remotely, the fact that school starts tomorrow doesn't really matter. Even for a school with a strong sense of community, in which us as parents are deeply involved, it still feels fairly impersonal. My own child is pretty indifferent as to where they go to school at this point. That said, sticking it out isn't the wrong call either. This is a great city, it's just that with everything related to COVID, its becoming less worth it.

option 6y ago

people with kids either did not move to SF or left earlier. I have several friends (with kids) who moved out of SF before pandemic due to crime/safety concerns. Mostly in 2018/2019

austhrow743 6y ago

SF has the lowest amount of kids of any major US city.