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I think I should have been more careful with my "revised" statement, as I set up a straw man for my own position. You are absolutely right that both voter frau

I think I should have been more careful with my "revised" statement, as I set up a straw man for my own position. You are absolutely right that both voter fraud and electoral fraud occur. We should take efforts to minimize both kinds. The divisive question is whether VOTER FRAUD or ELECTORAL FRAUD is currently a bigger threat to our government / society. I maintain that it is important to clearly distinguish between voter vs election fraud. As your comments have shown, conflating the two risks confusion. I think the idea that "both sides are the same" is ignorant at best and intentionally misleading at worst. I have so far seen no evidence that voter fraud has significantly impacted the outcome of any state or national elections. There is, however, overwhelming evidence that electoral fraud is widespread, and in most cases enabled by members of the Republican party, either through negligence or malice.

hpcjoe 6y ago
Again, assigning blame to a single party is simply incorrect. It shows bias. From today[1]. And previous reporting on this identifies the party[2]. Not the GOP. Fraud occurs[3], and it is not only from one particular party or group. The idea is to simply reduce any potential impact from attempts at fraud. We aren't there yet. We need to be in order to have an election that people might accept. I am, however, of the belief that no matter how this November 3rd goes, about 50% of the population will not accept the outcome. Just like in 2016. [1] https://www.foxnews.com/politics/paterson-new-jersey-voter-fraud-new-election-city-council-race https://www.foxnews.com/politics/paterson-new-jersey-voter-f... [2] http://www.shorenewsnetwork.com/2020/06/25/fraud-charges/ http://www.shorenewsnetwork.com/2020/06/25/fraud-charges/ [3] https://www.newsweek.com/top-five-rigged-us-presidential-elections-511765 https://www.newsweek.com/top-five-rigged-us-presidential-ele...

hpcjoe 6y ago

Again, assigning blame to a single party is simply incorrect. It shows bias. From today[1]. And previous reporting on this identifies the party[2]. Not the GOP. Fraud occurs[3], and it is not only from one particular party or group. The idea is to simply reduce any potential impact from attempts at fraud. We aren't there yet. We need to be in order to have an election that people might accept. I am, however, of the belief that no matter how this November 3rd goes, about 50% of the population will not accept the outcome. Just like in 2016. [1] https://www.foxnews.com/politics/paterson-new-jersey-voter-fraud-new-election-city-council-race https://www.foxnews.com/politics/paterson-new-jersey-voter-f... [2] http://www.shorenewsnetwork.com/2020/06/25/fraud-charges/ http://www.shorenewsnetwork.com/2020/06/25/fraud-charges/ [3] https://www.newsweek.com/top-five-rigged-us-presidential-elections-511765 https://www.newsweek.com/top-five-rigged-us-presidential-ele...