> Meanwhile people have difficulty filling out paper ballots, because it's terrible UX. If you want to have a nice voting system like STV or even ranked-choice,

> Meanwhile people have difficulty filling out paper ballots, because it's terrible UX. If you want to have a nice voting system like STV or even ranked-choice, shading ovals on paper ballots is not ideal. I am 100 for voting with machines that spit out the cannonical paper which can be hand-reviwed. The point is not the paper UX, but the paper trail. > Sometimes it feels as though existing problems get a free pass because of tradition, but new issues (even if addressed) are scary and so the entire thing should be stopped. As somebody who has spent weird years pushing Haskell where it wasn't requested I know the feeling exactly, OK? :). It's just an unfortunately truth that the messy unprincipled systems today happens to involve using paper, which is in fact good in principle. I would love if we had a 3 way discourse on 1) good paper systems 2) bad current hodge-podge 3) bad purely-electronic, in order to speak truths while avoiding status quo bias.