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I'm gay and eat at chick-fil-a all the time. Because they make delicious food. It's a fast food joint. I'm so done with all the joyless, puritanical woke-scol

I'm gay and eat at chick-fil-a all the time. Because they make delicious food. It's a fast food joint. I'm so done with all the joyless, puritanical woke-scolds. Whether I decide to purchase and eat a freaking chicken sandwich and fries is not a matter of LGBT rights! I've eaten chick-fil-a and bought goya for years...and will continue doing so in spite of pretty much any controversy. Because otherwise life is joyless if every consumer decision I make is at the mercy of some ever-changing cult-like extreme moral binary.

snypher 6y ago
What do you truly believe in and what do you stand for?
trianglem 6y ago
Well extrapolate that situation and imagine every business refused to hire you. That’s the situation these “woke” people are trying to avoid to help your lazy, ungrateful butt.
- gnusty_gnurc 6y ago
  > that’s the situation these “woke” people are trying to avoid No - LGBT rights are secured through sustained organization enacted through the democratic process. Berating people over a freaking chicken sandwich isn't going to enact LGBT rights. This type of activism is a pernicious purity cult that accomplishes little and directs energy that could be used for advancing real causes into petty shaming and conspicuous consumption.
- fermienrico 6y ago
  Jeez, there is probably a nicer way to say this. I agree 100% with your core point though - we need neutral corporatios that don't pick sides, races, ethnic groups, preferential treatement, politics, etc. That also includes making a BLM, LGBT, etc. statement forcefully as some ultra-left-wing interest groups want. For example, if a company does not make a BLM supporting statement, that should not mean they're racist. They just don't want to get into the mess and I respect that. The problem is on both sides. Extreme-left and Extreme-right. On HN (and largely all left wing media), we tend to ignore wrongdoings and insane tactics of the former (blindfully), whilst bashing the latter (rightfully, I don't oppose).
  - bdcravens 6y ago
    Religious extremism takes many forms, even among those who don't worship a deity.
- cwhiz 6y ago
  >That’s the situation these “woke” people are trying to avoid to help your lazy, ungrateful butt. That's basically the crux of this whole absurd "movement." People bending over backward to maintain a high level of outrage on behalf of some other person who hasn't even asked for your help. Trying to bully or silence other people into adhering to whatever the flavor of the month is. Then you move on to your next outrage fix. And the end result is unequivocally negative. Donald Trump is absolute proof of the absurd stupidity and failure of this "movement." But keep fighting the good fight. The far right needs you more than you could possibly imagine.
- dang 6y ago
  Whoa. Personal attacks are not cool, and neither is taking HN threads further into flamewar. I realize the GP was provocative and also on the flamebait side, but the site guidelines ask you not to take the bait: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html — and certainly not to post like this.
JackMorgan 6y ago
I totally agree it feels like there is a rise of a new morality. The only problem is it doesn't have the pressure valve of repentance and forgiveness like previous Judeo-Christian religions, so once a sin is committed the only choice is excommunication. Joyless is exactly the right term for this sort of social fabric.

snypher 6y ago

What do you truly believe in and what do you stand for?

trianglem 6y ago

Well extrapolate that situation and imagine every business refused to hire you. That’s the situation these “woke” people are trying to avoid to help your lazy, ungrateful butt.

gnusty_gnurc 6y ago
> that’s the situation these “woke” people are trying to avoid No - LGBT rights are secured through sustained organization enacted through the democratic process. Berating people over a freaking chicken sandwich isn't going to enact LGBT rights. This type of activism is a pernicious purity cult that accomplishes little and directs energy that could be used for advancing real causes into petty shaming and conspicuous consumption.
fermienrico 6y ago
Jeez, there is probably a nicer way to say this. I agree 100% with your core point though - we need neutral corporatios that don't pick sides, races, ethnic groups, preferential treatement, politics, etc. That also includes making a BLM, LGBT, etc. statement forcefully as some ultra-left-wing interest groups want. For example, if a company does not make a BLM supporting statement, that should not mean they're racist. They just don't want to get into the mess and I respect that. The problem is on both sides. Extreme-left and Extreme-right. On HN (and largely all left wing media), we tend to ignore wrongdoings and insane tactics of the former (blindfully), whilst bashing the latter (rightfully, I don't oppose).
- bdcravens 6y ago
  Religious extremism takes many forms, even among those who don't worship a deity.
cwhiz 6y ago
>That’s the situation these “woke” people are trying to avoid to help your lazy, ungrateful butt. That's basically the crux of this whole absurd "movement." People bending over backward to maintain a high level of outrage on behalf of some other person who hasn't even asked for your help. Trying to bully or silence other people into adhering to whatever the flavor of the month is. Then you move on to your next outrage fix. And the end result is unequivocally negative. Donald Trump is absolute proof of the absurd stupidity and failure of this "movement." But keep fighting the good fight. The far right needs you more than you could possibly imagine.
dang 6y ago
Whoa. Personal attacks are not cool, and neither is taking HN threads further into flamewar. I realize the GP was provocative and also on the flamebait side, but the site guidelines ask you not to take the bait: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html — and certainly not to post like this.

JackMorgan 6y ago

I totally agree it feels like there is a rise of a new morality. The only problem is it doesn't have the pressure valve of repentance and forgiveness like previous Judeo-Christian religions, so once a sin is committed the only choice is excommunication. Joyless is exactly the right term for this sort of social fabric.