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I myself only build websites with Google Authentication I don't see any other competitor in this space everyone has a Google account and I don't have to deal wi

by ramon 6y ago

I myself only build websites with Google Authentication I don't see any other competitor in this space everyone has a Google account and I don't have to deal with Infosec. Who doesn't have a Google account? Yes Google rules the web and there's not much we can do but live with it, I also like the fact that Google gives us a bunch of things for free and many people don't take this into account. Think about all the free things Google is giving you at this moment? Do you use Gmail? Do you search in Google? Do you want a paid alternative to Gmail or to searching? Come on let us not be children.

biztos 6y ago
I dislike AMP because it's Google trying to own parts of the web that should not be ownable. Every non-Google service I log into that allows external auth supports at least Facebook and plain old e-mail in addition to Google. Maybe your experience is different, but I use a lot of very mainstream services both free and paid. I know people who don't have Google accounts. I only use Gmail as a throwaway address for when I expect spam (e.g. signing up for dodgy-looking web sites). I happily admit I'm a huge fan of Google Maps and would not at all mind paying for it, and I actually do pay for YouTube, but everything else from Google has pretty good alternatives as far as I can see. (And even Maps has acceptable alternatives, it's just that much better.) AMP is like putting all the non-Gmail mail you receive on your Gmail account into a separate folder, and only including Gmail senders in your Inbox.
andrewkdinh 6y ago
I hate when websites do this. I don’t use anything Google unless I’m forced to (work email, Google Drive for my school, etc.). And unless I absolutely need to use your site, I will avoid it like the plague. It’s not just limited to Google; it’s for any site providing only third-party OAuth login. I can never remember which one I signed in with, and if that service ever shuts down, it’ll be a pain to figure which of the hundreds of services I’ve signed up for using that OAuth login. It’s much easier to change an email. And yes, I do use a paid alternative to Gmail (ProtonMail)
- ramon 6y ago
  I just don't understand where all this hate is coming from I don't hate Google for giving me free stuff and collecting my information I'm not doing anything wrong so I don't care. I understand that people might feel bad about being monitored and all but what can we do we live in a society full of internet connected stuff we're going to be monitored no matter what anyways I don't hate companies for it at all. Imagine this the majority of the Global phones are Android that means that the majority of the world has a Google account just because of the Android phone registration. Google is the world's largest source of information hub and I don't have anything against them or any other huge IT company if they're doing stuff good for us let it be, I'm a Gmail user and I use Google and I host my stuff in Google too so I'm all in for Google, Microsoft, Linux you name it! No hates here.
  - andrewkdinh 6y ago
    > I'm not doing anything wrong so I don't care I’m not going to try too hard to convince you of digital privacy, but would you really be fine with me just browsing through your browsing and search history, INCLUDING whatever you do in incognito? I’m sure you’ve made at least one anonymous account before. Why’s that? And what’s right today may not be so right in the future. Are you ok with everybody from your boss to your children knowing everything you’ve ever posted? Shouldn’t we have a right to be forgotten? > what can we do we live in a society full of internet connected stuff we're going to be monitored no matter what anyways We live in a democracy, well I assume you do too. Just because it’s the way how things are today doesn’t mean it can’t be changed in the future. > I don't have anything against them or any other huge IT company if they're doing stuff good for us let it be I’m not saying they’re not doing great things for the world, but it all comes at a price.

by ramon 6y ago

biztos 6y ago

I dislike AMP because it's Google trying to own parts of the web that should not be ownable. Every non-Google service I log into that allows external auth supports at least Facebook and plain old e-mail in addition to Google. Maybe your experience is different, but I use a lot of very mainstream services both free and paid. I know people who don't have Google accounts. I only use Gmail as a throwaway address for when I expect spam (e.g. signing up for dodgy-looking web sites). I happily admit I'm a huge fan of Google Maps and would not at all mind paying for it, and I actually do pay for YouTube, but everything else from Google has pretty good alternatives as far as I can see. (And even Maps has acceptable alternatives, it's just that much better.) AMP is like putting all the non-Gmail mail you receive on your Gmail account into a separate folder, and only including Gmail senders in your Inbox.

andrewkdinh 6y ago

I hate when websites do this. I don’t use anything Google unless I’m forced to (work email, Google Drive for my school, etc.). And unless I absolutely need to use your site, I will avoid it like the plague. It’s not just limited to Google; it’s for any site providing only third-party OAuth login. I can never remember which one I signed in with, and if that service ever shuts down, it’ll be a pain to figure which of the hundreds of services I’ve signed up for using that OAuth login. It’s much easier to change an email. And yes, I do use a paid alternative to Gmail (ProtonMail)

ramon 6y ago
I just don't understand where all this hate is coming from I don't hate Google for giving me free stuff and collecting my information I'm not doing anything wrong so I don't care. I understand that people might feel bad about being monitored and all but what can we do we live in a society full of internet connected stuff we're going to be monitored no matter what anyways I don't hate companies for it at all. Imagine this the majority of the Global phones are Android that means that the majority of the world has a Google account just because of the Android phone registration. Google is the world's largest source of information hub and I don't have anything against them or any other huge IT company if they're doing stuff good for us let it be, I'm a Gmail user and I use Google and I host my stuff in Google too so I'm all in for Google, Microsoft, Linux you name it! No hates here.
- andrewkdinh 6y ago
  > I'm not doing anything wrong so I don't care I’m not going to try too hard to convince you of digital privacy, but would you really be fine with me just browsing through your browsing and search history, INCLUDING whatever you do in incognito? I’m sure you’ve made at least one anonymous account before. Why’s that? And what’s right today may not be so right in the future. Are you ok with everybody from your boss to your children knowing everything you’ve ever posted? Shouldn’t we have a right to be forgotten? > what can we do we live in a society full of internet connected stuff we're going to be monitored no matter what anyways We live in a democracy, well I assume you do too. Just because it’s the way how things are today doesn’t mean it can’t be changed in the future. > I don't have anything against them or any other huge IT company if they're doing stuff good for us let it be I’m not saying they’re not doing great things for the world, but it all comes at a price.