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The media has almost entirely ignored how the majority of young people who died of Covid were obese. Two days ago the NYT finally acknowledged this as a risk fa

The media has almost entirely ignored how the majority of young people who died of Covid were obese. Two days ago the NYT finally acknowledged this as a risk factor despite it being obvious to anyone paying attention https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/14/health/covid-19-obesity.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/14/health/covid-19-obesity.h... Being fat is an enormous risk factor for dying of Covid, but instead of a giant “Get Out and Jog” campaign we are just supposed to hunker down inside and pray for a vaccine. Being fat is a sign of generally poor health. It hurts your immune system. It reduces your quality of life. It has ripple effects to the rest of your body. The fat positivity movement is one of the worst movements ever to exist. There is nothing positive about being fat. It is only negative.

mrfusion 6y ago
If I was in charge during this I would have done a huge get healthy campaign. Vitamin d for all, free gym memberships and park fees, healthy food campaign. (Plus protecting nursing homes) It would let people feel like they’re doing something to fight the disease. It would bring us positivity instead of negativity, and the health improvements would pay dividends for years. Oh also a massive volunteer effort for healthy people to deliver food and medicine to the elderly and vulnerable.
- Someone1234 6y ago
  Sounds like if you were in charge you would have done the opposite of social distancing (e.g. free gym/parks, volunteers visiting tons of people's homes, etc). This seems like a strategy that could increase the spread significantly.
  - mrfusion 6y ago
    Interesting point. The volunteers would have to be super careful. I’d envision leaving the food outside the door.
    - narag 6y ago
      That's exactly what has been done in Madrid. Council organized free meals for vulnerable people, but there were many individuals that just volunteered for their neighbours. My mother and his husband received several offers from young couples in the block to go buying groceries or make any other errands and leave them outside the door. The vitamin D and C were sent by me through Amazon :)
- 082349872349872 6y ago
  "but that would be communism!" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23940405 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23940405 Ochen' vyros v tselom mire COVID virus - tri... chetyre... https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTVwGg7lUerpxTSfA4bzleu9cmdLyvPOiWZUQ&usqp=CAU https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTVwG... Edit: people can do something to fight the disease: keep distance from people they don't already live with (and wash their hands). They can do this, but in some places they don't. (I worry about the people in my country who won't: we're already back up to about 30/million new cases per day, after having been down to single digit total new cases.) https://www.lemonde.fr/les-decodeurs/article/2020/03/27/coronavirus-visualisez-les-pays-qui-ont-aplati-la-courbe-de-l-infection-et-ceux-qui-n-y-sont-pas-encore-parvenus_6034627_4355770.html https://www.lemonde.fr/les-decodeurs/article/2020/03/27/coro... Edit2: for what it's worth, the private insurers here sponsor fitness trails all over the country, because they have an economic incentive to pay out fewer, lower, claims. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitness_trail https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitness_trail (and grocery and pharmacy delivery was already a normal thing, before.)
gnusty_gnurc 6y ago
I want to be open-minded to people I’ve known throughout college, etc. that are lefty activists but the stuff they share about “beautiful” fat people/“medicalizing” is frankly deranged. I get that recognizing humanity and compassion for everyone is important. But what more evidence do we need of the outcomes wrt covid where Japan has a 4% obesity rate vs US 40%. We’re talking an order of magnitude disparity.

mrfusion 6y ago

If I was in charge during this I would have done a huge get healthy campaign. Vitamin d for all, free gym memberships and park fees, healthy food campaign. (Plus protecting nursing homes) It would let people feel like they’re doing something to fight the disease. It would bring us positivity instead of negativity, and the health improvements would pay dividends for years. Oh also a massive volunteer effort for healthy people to deliver food and medicine to the elderly and vulnerable.

Someone1234 6y ago
Sounds like if you were in charge you would have done the opposite of social distancing (e.g. free gym/parks, volunteers visiting tons of people's homes, etc). This seems like a strategy that could increase the spread significantly.
- mrfusion 6y ago
  Interesting point. The volunteers would have to be super careful. I’d envision leaving the food outside the door.
  - narag 6y ago
    That's exactly what has been done in Madrid. Council organized free meals for vulnerable people, but there were many individuals that just volunteered for their neighbours. My mother and his husband received several offers from young couples in the block to go buying groceries or make any other errands and leave them outside the door. The vitamin D and C were sent by me through Amazon :)
082349872349872 6y ago
"but that would be communism!" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23940405 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23940405 Ochen' vyros v tselom mire COVID virus - tri... chetyre... https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTVwGg7lUerpxTSfA4bzleu9cmdLyvPOiWZUQ&usqp=CAU https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTVwG... Edit: people can do something to fight the disease: keep distance from people they don't already live with (and wash their hands). They can do this, but in some places they don't. (I worry about the people in my country who won't: we're already back up to about 30/million new cases per day, after having been down to single digit total new cases.) https://www.lemonde.fr/les-decodeurs/article/2020/03/27/coronavirus-visualisez-les-pays-qui-ont-aplati-la-courbe-de-l-infection-et-ceux-qui-n-y-sont-pas-encore-parvenus_6034627_4355770.html https://www.lemonde.fr/les-decodeurs/article/2020/03/27/coro... Edit2: for what it's worth, the private insurers here sponsor fitness trails all over the country, because they have an economic incentive to pay out fewer, lower, claims. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitness_trail https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitness_trail (and grocery and pharmacy delivery was already a normal thing, before.)

gnusty_gnurc 6y ago

I want to be open-minded to people I’ve known throughout college, etc. that are lefty activists but the stuff they share about “beautiful” fat people/“medicalizing” is frankly deranged. I get that recognizing humanity and compassion for everyone is important. But what more evidence do we need of the outcomes wrt covid where Japan has a 4% obesity rate vs US 40%. We’re talking an order of magnitude disparity.