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Semantics, we all know what the poster meant. Whatever the cause, the homeless make large swaths of San Francisco unappealing, especially for people with young
by paul_f 6y ago
Semantics, we all know what the poster meant. Whatever the cause, the homeless make large swaths of San Francisco unappealing, especially for people with young families. BTW, quite the irony that the most liberal city in the country has the biggest homeless problem. Whatever they're doing isn't working, maybe they should try something different?
- wwwwwwwww 6y agoAgain, its society and its lack of compassion does it. Not "the homeless".
- pb7 6y agoThere is more than plenty of compassion in SF and it doesn’t seem to be helping.
- zzzzzzzza 6y agoor maybe just prop 13
- lotsofpulp 6y agoIf SF decided to show compassion and start spending the massive amounts of money needed to help the homeless via education or mental health facilities, every other municipality in the country will start shipping people in. This isn’t a problem any city or state can address. It’s only solvable on a federal level, and that’s only because there is a military to enforce borders.
- wwwwwwwww 6y agoSo you decide to not help people, because then you would need to help people?
- lotsofpulp 6y agoEmotional platitudes such as “helping people” are not useful. It is obvious that if I vote for my city to provide mental health and housing to anyone that needs it, my city will quickly go bankrupt. Same for my state. It’s the same situation with providing taxpayer funded healthcare. I know that we need the full weight of the federal government to attack this problem, so I support and vote for candidates who I think can best help us get there federally.
- pedrosorio 6y agoDid you read the OPs argument? It’s not that “helping people leads to helping more people” is a problem. It’s how many people can a single city (particularly one as housing constrained as SF) afford to help. Suppose you want to help people and decide that donating 20% of your after tax salary helping people is reasonable. Instead, offer anyone who comes to your door in need $1000. How long will you be able to keep it up?
- dang 6y agoWould you please stop using HN for flamewar and posting unsubstantive comments? We ban accounts that do that and you've unfortunately done quite a bit already. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- paul_f 6y agoSan Francisco has a lack of compassion? News to me.
- wwwwwwwww 6y agoWhat would call it when one of the richest cities doesn't give a shit about wide-spread homelessness and drug abuse? Sure, people may talk about it to virtue-signal, but nothing gets actually done that would help.
- stale2002 6y agoRegardless, the issue still remains that this problem makes the city less attractive as a place to live, and it is a problem that bothers people.
- jeffdn 6y agoSan Francisco may be the most liberal city in the country (or at least one of them -- Washington, D.C. is pretty liberal, too), but it absolutely does not have the worst homeless problem: https://www.usnews.com/news/cities/slideshows/cities-with-the-most-homelessness-in-the-us?slide=2 https://www.usnews.com/news/cities/slideshows/cities-with-th...
- reducesuffering 6y agoOnly if you’re using the literal definition of “absolute.” I think most people would find per-capita a much better metric for the “worst homeless problem.”