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All of those are solvable (and solved in most western countries). Re. Covid, it would be a simple solution to spread in person voting out a few days. It would

All of those are solvable (and solved in most western countries). Re. Covid, it would be a simple solution to spread in person voting out a few days. It would be an inconvenience but no need to invent a new system.

TheHypnotist 6y ago
You overestimate the current government of the USA.
- Fjolsvith 6y ago
  The federal government doesn't handle vote tallying or polling, so why your comment?
  - mhh__ 6y ago
    The federal government also doesn't set the drinking age. The Trump administration seems to be trying to ratfuck an entire election. They won't succeed, but "Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest"-style comments from trump about fraud and months of delays in the results are beyond asinine. I'm slightly amazed that HN seems to have a contingent of I'm alright jack supporters of him. Maybe that says something about our ethics but I won't go there.
Touche 6y ago
You're assuming those in power want to increase enfranchisement.
- Fjolsvith 6y ago
  So neither party wants to increase enfranchisement?
  - Touche 6y ago
    Parties want to increase enfranchisement when they are in a position to gain from it. Once they've gained power they usually no longer need the help that increased enfranchisement would provide (survivorship bias). This is the same problem that prevents fixing many problems in government, like underrepresentation due to the 2-party system. Those in power want to maintain the status quo.
diffeomorphism 6y ago
> it would be a simple solution to spread in person voting out a few days. Don't you need volunteers to sit at all polling stations for all this time? So your simple solution is "we just need five times as many volunteers" and that at a time where all this contact is risky and where the president is claiming elections are fraudulent? That sounds difficult.
- Swenrekcah 6y ago
  Yeah, I meant simple, not easy in the current environment. Proper distancing and masking is relatively easy and just pay the workers a bit and everyone is happy. I'm just saying holding fair elections is a solved problem. People should hold their representatives accountable to use the tried and tested methods.

TheHypnotist 6y ago

You overestimate the current government of the USA.

Fjolsvith 6y ago
The federal government doesn't handle vote tallying or polling, so why your comment?
- mhh__ 6y ago
  The federal government also doesn't set the drinking age. The Trump administration seems to be trying to ratfuck an entire election. They won't succeed, but "Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest"-style comments from trump about fraud and months of delays in the results are beyond asinine. I'm slightly amazed that HN seems to have a contingent of I'm alright jack supporters of him. Maybe that says something about our ethics but I won't go there.

Touche 6y ago

You're assuming those in power want to increase enfranchisement.

Fjolsvith 6y ago
So neither party wants to increase enfranchisement?
- Touche 6y ago
  Parties want to increase enfranchisement when they are in a position to gain from it. Once they've gained power they usually no longer need the help that increased enfranchisement would provide (survivorship bias). This is the same problem that prevents fixing many problems in government, like underrepresentation due to the 2-party system. Those in power want to maintain the status quo.

diffeomorphism 6y ago

> it would be a simple solution to spread in person voting out a few days. Don't you need volunteers to sit at all polling stations for all this time? So your simple solution is "we just need five times as many volunteers" and that at a time where all this contact is risky and where the president is claiming elections are fraudulent? That sounds difficult.

Swenrekcah 6y ago
Yeah, I meant simple, not easy in the current environment. Proper distancing and masking is relatively easy and just pay the workers a bit and everyone is happy. I'm just saying holding fair elections is a solved problem. People should hold their representatives accountable to use the tried and tested methods.