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NYC is dead right now. The question is whether it will come back to life. My hunch is yes, because it is still a good brand.

beamatronic 6y ago
Are the fundamentals still sound? The biggest fundamental being challenged now is “Do people need to work in the same physical location?”
- Mediterraneo10 6y ago
  Wouldn't remote working actually make hipsters across the country free to move to a city that has a brand that resonates with them?
  - CuriouslyC 6y ago
    Sure, if they can afford the ridiculous cost of living, which I doubt in most cases.
  - paul_f 6y ago
    New York is not built on taxes collected from hipsters.
    - Mediterraneo10 6y ago
      The era when some of New York City (even parts of Manhattan) had substandard public services didn't stop hipsters moving there. A city might not be corporately "thriving" with a tax base of such residents, but due to the power of its brand the city can still draw alternative young people and keep the legacy of art and culture going.
- robjan 6y ago
  New York is desirable because of the other people and businesses in New York as well as being one of the cultural capitals of the world. Those can't be replaced by Zoom calls, no matter how hard we try.
  - JMTQp8lwXL 6y ago
    It's more nuanced than that. Not every meeting can be replaced by a Zoom call, but many can. And each time that decision is made, it's less flights, hotels, dining etc being spent in NYC.
CydeWeys 6y ago
> NYC is dead right now. It's really not though. Where are you coming up with that? I live in Manhattan and spent the day walking around outside yesterday doing various things and it was very much not dead. There were people out and about everywhere doing things, patronizing businesses, etc. What makes you think it's "dead"?
odessacubbage 6y ago
optimistically i hope this whole thing will serve as a highly aggressive market correction that will help to make cities livable again. it will be interesting to see just how much of a driver culture and food really are when you don't need to live within the same 15 miles as 8 million other people in order to become wealthy or build a career. but for the love of god new yorkers, please go back to nyc none of you know how to drive. also please take the californians with you.

beamatronic 6y ago

Are the fundamentals still sound? The biggest fundamental being challenged now is “Do people need to work in the same physical location?”

Mediterraneo10 6y ago
Wouldn't remote working actually make hipsters across the country free to move to a city that has a brand that resonates with them?
- CuriouslyC 6y ago
  Sure, if they can afford the ridiculous cost of living, which I doubt in most cases.
- paul_f 6y ago
  New York is not built on taxes collected from hipsters.
  - Mediterraneo10 6y ago
    The era when some of New York City (even parts of Manhattan) had substandard public services didn't stop hipsters moving there. A city might not be corporately "thriving" with a tax base of such residents, but due to the power of its brand the city can still draw alternative young people and keep the legacy of art and culture going.
robjan 6y ago
New York is desirable because of the other people and businesses in New York as well as being one of the cultural capitals of the world. Those can't be replaced by Zoom calls, no matter how hard we try.
- JMTQp8lwXL 6y ago
  It's more nuanced than that. Not every meeting can be replaced by a Zoom call, but many can. And each time that decision is made, it's less flights, hotels, dining etc being spent in NYC.

CydeWeys 6y ago

> NYC is dead right now. It's really not though. Where are you coming up with that? I live in Manhattan and spent the day walking around outside yesterday doing various things and it was very much not dead. There were people out and about everywhere doing things, patronizing businesses, etc. What makes you think it's "dead"?

odessacubbage 6y ago

optimistically i hope this whole thing will serve as a highly aggressive market correction that will help to make cities livable again. it will be interesting to see just how much of a driver culture and food really are when you don't need to live within the same 15 miles as 8 million other people in order to become wealthy or build a career. but for the love of god new yorkers, please go back to nyc none of you know how to drive. also please take the californians with you.