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This is interesting as I’m trying to connect a Macintosh SE/30 that I recently brought back to life, without having to shell out crazy money for a network card

by tr352 6y ago

This is interesting as I’m trying to connect a Macintosh SE/30 that I recently brought back to life, without having to shell out crazy money for a network card on eBay. I wonder whether this TCP/IP over PPP solution also works under A/UX, which is what I want to run.

rbanffy 6y ago
Could the SE/30 run A/UX?! Wow!
- tr352 6y ago
  Yes, it's the only compact Macintosh that does.
  - kkylin 6y ago
    Oh, how I wish I still had my SE/30. Looking back through rose-tinted glasses, still the machine I had the most fun using. (Partly because of the machine, partly because everything I did on a computer back then was fun.) Anyway, good luck!
    - rbanffy 6y ago
      I remember the SE/30 had an expansion slot that could have a video card to power an external monitor. I wonder if such boards survived and could be resurrected.
rjsw 6y ago
Does A/UX have a PPP driver ? You could run NetBSD on your SE/30, it will do PPP (and IPv6).
- peteri 6y ago
  Pretty sure from my college days it has a full tcp stack, certainly I remember running X11R3 on A/UX and using two machines to get decent performance (one as server, one as client)
  - rbanffy 6y ago
    I used to have my RS-6000 (connected to my Intergraph monitor and a proper Model-M keyboard) running as X client to my laptop, which had a much smaller screen, and work that way. I could run a browser on the laptop (Firefox doesn't like X too much) and have a couple terminals and Emacs on glorious AIX flavored CDE.
- tr352 6y ago
  Delved into this a bit, and found some claims that there's no PPP driver for A/UX, so I guess there's the answer. I know about NetBSD. However, in my somewhat irrational mind, it lacks the cool factor of A/UX, the spiritual stepfather of Mac OS X (the biological one being NeXTStep, obviously).
  - rjsw 6y ago
    The PPP protocol isn't very complicated, how easy it would be to add to a binary-only UNIX is another question. You could have a look for whether the A/UX network stack is from BSD or System V. One thing that would make a big difference is whether it supports STREAMS [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STREAMS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STREAMS
  - justin66 6y ago
    A few minutes of googling make it look like SLIP and PPP solutions exist for A/UX.
abbub 6y ago
There are no PPP solutions for A/UX. I also have a SE/30 with 6.x, 7.1.1, 7.5, and A/UX on it (8 GB is a LOT of hard drive space on a SE/30) and the PPP solution works for everything except A/UX.
- tmzt 6y ago
  What about SLIP?

by tr352 6y ago

rbanffy 6y ago

Could the SE/30 run A/UX?! Wow!

tr352 6y ago
Yes, it's the only compact Macintosh that does.
- kkylin 6y ago
  Oh, how I wish I still had my SE/30. Looking back through rose-tinted glasses, still the machine I had the most fun using. (Partly because of the machine, partly because everything I did on a computer back then was fun.) Anyway, good luck!
  - rbanffy 6y ago
    I remember the SE/30 had an expansion slot that could have a video card to power an external monitor. I wonder if such boards survived and could be resurrected.

rjsw 6y ago

Does A/UX have a PPP driver ? You could run NetBSD on your SE/30, it will do PPP (and IPv6).

peteri 6y ago
Pretty sure from my college days it has a full tcp stack, certainly I remember running X11R3 on A/UX and using two machines to get decent performance (one as server, one as client)
- rbanffy 6y ago
  I used to have my RS-6000 (connected to my Intergraph monitor and a proper Model-M keyboard) running as X client to my laptop, which had a much smaller screen, and work that way. I could run a browser on the laptop (Firefox doesn't like X too much) and have a couple terminals and Emacs on glorious AIX flavored CDE.
tr352 6y ago
Delved into this a bit, and found some claims that there's no PPP driver for A/UX, so I guess there's the answer. I know about NetBSD. However, in my somewhat irrational mind, it lacks the cool factor of A/UX, the spiritual stepfather of Mac OS X (the biological one being NeXTStep, obviously).
- rjsw 6y ago
  The PPP protocol isn't very complicated, how easy it would be to add to a binary-only UNIX is another question. You could have a look for whether the A/UX network stack is from BSD or System V. One thing that would make a big difference is whether it supports STREAMS [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STREAMS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STREAMS
- justin66 6y ago
  A few minutes of googling make it look like SLIP and PPP solutions exist for A/UX.

abbub 6y ago

There are no PPP solutions for A/UX. I also have a SE/30 with 6.x, 7.1.1, 7.5, and A/UX on it (8 GB is a LOT of hard drive space on a SE/30) and the PPP solution works for everything except A/UX.

tmzt 6y ago
What about SLIP?