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I'd be interested to know the rationale for the downvote.

duxup 6y ago
I didn't vote but IMO the posts that are really certain of a specific agenda seem sort of less credible and just rando spin. Even a slight indication that you recognize your are guessing tends to illicit... better responses.
- hombre_fatal 6y ago
  Yeah, the forum political expert analyst is such a boring trope. "So, pol nerd here!" —whoa, quite the credentials! It's just altogether offputting and exactly the thing we need less in discourse. We're all just guessing, so it goes a long way to admit that you realize that instead of sounding like the kind of person who thinks you're a "pol nerd" with their finger on the pulse because you do whatever you think you do that makes you an authority on the matter, like read Twitter.
smbullet 6y ago
Probably because it's speculation.
burfog 6y ago
Probably for this: "we skew white, male, and affluent. Those, as he sees it, are his people." That appears to be an accusation of racism, sexism, and classism. He was in the public eye for decades, but didn't get those sorts of accusations until he dared to become involved in presidential politics. The evidence points the other way. Just a few items, one for each accusation: He used to have a black girlfriend. He frequently put women in positions of power in his organization, and his campaign was the first successful one with a female campaign manager. When taking his wife out to eat at a fancy place, his own meal would be Diet Coke and a well-done burger with ketchup. Fair judging standards should apply. The comment you made is clearly more applicable to the alternative: https://joebiden.info/ https://joebiden.info/
- timmytokyo 6y ago
  His racism has been apparent for longer than the last 3.5 years [1]. [1] https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-r...
  - refurb 6y ago
    In typical Vox fashion, that article is really stretching to make a point. A few examples: - "Trump Management Corporation" accused of racism, not Trump himself - Trump pays for ad saying “Central Park Five” should be executed. They were innocent. But apparently that's racist? - In The Apprentice TV show, Trump said of a black person “You’re an unbelievably talented guy in terms of education, and you haven’t done anything. That's racist? - Trump proposed idea for The Apprentice - “an idea that is fairly controversial — creating a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites. Whether people like that idea or not, it is somewhat reflective of our very vicious world.” That's racist? - Trump claimed, “I heard [Obama] was a terrible student. Terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?” Poor taste? Tactless? Unpresidential? Sure. Racist? Not really.
    - stjohnswarts 6y ago
      He constantly aligns himself with racists and xenophobes and retweets their hateful posts and conspiracies, how is that not racist and xenophobic? He's just cunning enough to not say it all outright and I suspect his lawyers have taught him how to avoid those pitfalls.

I didn't vote but IMO the posts that are really certain of a specific agenda seem sort of less credible and just rando spin. Even a slight indication that you recognize your are guessing tends to illicit... better responses.

hombre_fatal 6y ago
Yeah, the forum political expert analyst is such a boring trope. "So, pol nerd here!" —whoa, quite the credentials! It's just altogether offputting and exactly the thing we need less in discourse. We're all just guessing, so it goes a long way to admit that you realize that instead of sounding like the kind of person who thinks you're a "pol nerd" with their finger on the pulse because you do whatever you think you do that makes you an authority on the matter, like read Twitter.

smbullet 6y ago

Probably because it's speculation.

burfog 6y ago

Probably for this: "we skew white, male, and affluent. Those, as he sees it, are his people." That appears to be an accusation of racism, sexism, and classism. He was in the public eye for decades, but didn't get those sorts of accusations until he dared to become involved in presidential politics. The evidence points the other way. Just a few items, one for each accusation: He used to have a black girlfriend. He frequently put women in positions of power in his organization, and his campaign was the first successful one with a female campaign manager. When taking his wife out to eat at a fancy place, his own meal would be Diet Coke and a well-done burger with ketchup. Fair judging standards should apply. The comment you made is clearly more applicable to the alternative: https://joebiden.info/ https://joebiden.info/

timmytokyo 6y ago
His racism has been apparent for longer than the last 3.5 years [1]. [1] https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-r...
- refurb 6y ago
  In typical Vox fashion, that article is really stretching to make a point. A few examples: - "Trump Management Corporation" accused of racism, not Trump himself - Trump pays for ad saying “Central Park Five” should be executed. They were innocent. But apparently that's racist? - In The Apprentice TV show, Trump said of a black person “You’re an unbelievably talented guy in terms of education, and you haven’t done anything. That's racist? - Trump proposed idea for The Apprentice - “an idea that is fairly controversial — creating a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites. Whether people like that idea or not, it is somewhat reflective of our very vicious world.” That's racist? - Trump claimed, “I heard [Obama] was a terrible student. Terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?” Poor taste? Tactless? Unpresidential? Sure. Racist? Not really.
  - stjohnswarts 6y ago
    He constantly aligns himself with racists and xenophobes and retweets their hateful posts and conspiracies, how is that not racist and xenophobic? He's just cunning enough to not say it all outright and I suspect his lawyers have taught him how to avoid those pitfalls.