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Depends, how bad was Prism exactly?

• lern_too_spel 6y ago
  Not very. https://www.cnet.com/news/no-evidence-of-nsas-direct-access-to-tech-companies/ https://www.cnet.com/news/no-evidence-of-nsas-direct-access-...
  • monocasa 6y ago
    Uhh, six years after that article, the justice system found PRISM had been commonly used unconstitutionally. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/10/secret-court-rules-fbis-backdoor-searches-americans-violated-fourth-amendment https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/10/secret-court-rules-fbi... I'd say that's pretty bad.
    • lern_too_spel 6y ago
      My article says that PRISM isn't what Snowden claimed it to be. Your article also does not dispute it. The issue that your article discusses is searches about Americans conducted on data collected from non-Americans outside the US (via Section 702). This is not mass surveillance on Americans. Edit: We're having this conversation in two places. Consolidated in this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24175476 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24175476
      • monocasa 6y ago
        It is giving recorded information on most Americans to the FBI who then used it unconstitutionally against Americans. It was never the NSA who was going to arrest you; this is what mass surveillance on Americans looks like.