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I use mutt for Gmail in my terminal, the setup is fairly easy and documented across blog posts example muttrc =================================================

I use mutt for Gmail in my terminal, the setup is fairly easy and documented across blog posts example muttrc ========================================================= set imap_user = '<username>@gmail.com' set imap_authenticators="oauthbearer" set imap_oauth_refresh_command="~/.mutt/oauth2.py --quiet --user=<username>@gmail.com --client_id=<id from google>.apps.googleusercontent.com --client_secret=<secret from google> --refresh_token=<token from, you guessed it, google>" set smtp_authenticators="oauthbearer" set smtp_oauth_refresh_command="~/.mutt/oauth2.py --quiet --user=<username>@gmail.com --client_id=<id from google>.apps.googleusercontent.com --client_secret=<secret from google> --refresh_token=<token from google>" set ssl_starttls=yes set ssl_force_tls=yes set imap_pass = 'my really hard to guess gmail password' set from='<username>@gmail.com' set realname='Fancy pants name' set folder = imaps://imap.gmail.com/ set spoolfile = +INBOX set record = "+[Gmail]/Sent Mail" set postponed = "+[Gmail]/Drafts" set trash = "+[Gmail]/Trash" set postponed="imaps://imap.gmail.com/[Gmail]/Drafts" set header_cache = "~/.mutt/cache/headers" set message_cachedir = "~/.mutt/cache/bodies" set certificate_file = "~/.mutt/certificates" set smtp_url = 'smtp://<username>@gmail.com:<my really hard to guess password>@smtp.gmail.com:587/' set smtp_pass = 'my really hard to guess password' set move = no set imap_keepalive = 900 #refresh every 10 seconds set timeout=10 set mail_check=20 # allow mutt to open new imap connection automatically unset imap_passive # vim! set editor=vim # email sorting set sort=threads set sort_browser=reverse-date set sort_aux=last-date-received # handy macros macro index gd "<change-folder>$postponed<enter>" "go to drafts" macro index gs "<change-folder>$record<enter>" "go to sent" macro index gi "<change-folder>$spoolfile<Enter>" "go to inbox" macro index gt "<change-folder>$trash<enter>" "go to trash""" macro index tb s+[Gmail]/Trash set noconfirmappend set quit=ask-yes =========================================================

tambourine_man 6y ago
I still use POP cause I’m paranoid. Does imap guarantees that it downloads and stores all mail indefinitely?
- peterwwillis 6y ago
  Sure, but the problem of storing messages indefinitely isn't from the protocol, it's from the client. The client may need to verify if it's actually seen a message before and keep a local index of them; it may need to double check the message still is what it expects before it tries to delete it; it needs to present you with options on how to handle message deletion; etc. POP3 is actually less reliable at keeping messages indefinitely than IMAPv4 is, due to limitations of the protocol. Some clients have defaults which simply delete the remote copy after download (or reading, which is different), but again that's not the protocol's fault.

tambourine_man 6y ago

I still use POP cause I’m paranoid. Does imap guarantees that it downloads and stores all mail indefinitely?

peterwwillis 6y ago
Sure, but the problem of storing messages indefinitely isn't from the protocol, it's from the client. The client may need to verify if it's actually seen a message before and keep a local index of them; it may need to double check the message still is what it expects before it tries to delete it; it needs to present you with options on how to handle message deletion; etc. POP3 is actually less reliable at keeping messages indefinitely than IMAPv4 is, due to limitations of the protocol. Some clients have defaults which simply delete the remote copy after download (or reading, which is different), but again that's not the protocol's fault.