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I don't know if it's the interface or the data model but stuff goes real sideways when you move across the commit boundary where the submodule was added, basica

I don't know if it's the interface or the data model but stuff goes real sideways when you move across the commit boundary where the submodule was added, basically breaking the fluiditiy of git. I think some of this is the files in the .git directory and the filesystem and some is the tools not handling the edge cases. There are the other parts where really a git clone should be recursive by default pulling the submodules instead of surprising you that oh crap I have to go submodule init or whatever the command is like 50 times.

rleigh 6y ago
Exactly so. The problem with submodules isn't the concept itself, it's the lack of transparency. The submodule state should always be kept up to date with the state of the working tree, so that you never end up in a situation where it is stale and out of sync with everything else. Git LFS has a similar problem, but there it does at least check out the content by default. But even there there have been too many times I've had to manually fetch things, or push things manually to different remotes.