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The ELIZA Effect (2019)
- politelemon 6y agoRelated: I didn't see mentioned on the page, there is also a visual novel game called Eliza, named after the same subject, and the in game Eliza follows a very similar script to the text screenshot shown on the page. It's an interesting game if you like visual novels, and it explores a few other concepts beyond the human machine relationship. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliza_(video_game) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliza_(video_game) https://store.steampowered.com/app/716500/Eliza/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/716500/Eliza/
- MaxBarraclough 6y agoThe article doesn't explain what ELIZA effect means: the tendency to unconsciously assume computer behaviors are analogous to human behaviors; that is, anthropomorphisation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA_effect
- jl2718 6y agoThis is more specifically the assumption that a computer understands and more importantly cares about what you are saying, and maybe also you as a person. This assumption is obviously wrong for the computer, but also usually wrong when interpreting responses from an actual therapist, or any other human, so no difference really.
- 082349872349872 6y agoWhy do you mention computers? In what way is it that actual therapists are like any other human? What does that suggest to you?
- 1f60c 6y agoI see what you did there ;-)
- throwaway_pdp09 6y agoTell me more about what you did there.
- 1f60c 6y agoI built a simple chatbot that uses GPT-3, which can be very convincingly human at times, so I can understand the tendency.
- shmageggy 6y agoI was wondering if this was going to be a commentary on GPT-3 (it's not), since much of the latest hype has a similar feel as ELIZA. Of course the verdict is still out as to what extent GPT-3 "understands", but it's clear that the spooky realism we feel when interacting with it is partly due to our imposing anthropomorphic interpretations, just like ELIZA.
- jermier 6y agoYeah and we have better training material for AI now. For example it could be possible to create a program that mimics Hackernews comments. There's more than enough training material on HN to create plausible-looking comments that aren't a bunch of nonsensical gobbledygook and that also pander to people's emotions.
- zxcvbn4038 6y agoEliza was a staple in every basic book and magazine ever published in the 80s and there were always copies in the computer labs, I’m sure I entered in this by hand at some point - https://everything2.com/title/ELIZA+source+code+in+BASIC https://everything2.com/title/ELIZA+source+code+in+BASIC I knew a guy who wrote an irc bot called “Petunia“ that wasn’t even as sophisticated as Eliza - it would just make random statements and every time someone sent it a message it would be added to the list of statements. It would post everything sent and received on a web site - including a mountain of nsfw images received - would take some people 15-20 minutes to decide that Petunia was fake.
- zxcvbn4038 6y agoAwesome! Someone wrote Eliza in golang with a web interface https://github.com/mattshiel/eliza-go https://github.com/mattshiel/eliza-go