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I would be OK to get rid of all CSS and other styling, and make it up to the user preferences instead how big a <h1> text is, how big a <h2> text is, how big th

I would be OK to get rid of all CSS and other styling, and make it up to the user preferences instead how big a <h1> text is, how big a <h2> text is, how big the normal text is, what colours to use, what fonts are in use, etc. Make a more user-oriented specification, designed primarily for the user to control, assuming the user is an expert at it, rather than the author of the document.

warkdarrior 6y ago
> assuming the user is an expert at it, rather than the author of the document But the user is NOT an expert at styling a website, this is why we have designers to figure out which combination of layout, fonts, and colors work well together.
- zzo38computer 6y ago
  Well, they will make styles that are slow and/or that many users do not like. Instead, let it be subject to the user configuration; the web browser designer can put in suitable default settings.
  - yoz-y 6y ago
    Expert users can already do this using extensions though.
- calvinmorrison 6y ago
  Users generally don't give a shit about styling as much as UX designers justifying thier salaries. There are probably more people who suffer daily from accessibility on the web than UX designers in total
userbinator 6y ago
Some browsers have (had) user stylesheets, which can do exactly that. Firefox (barely) still has that option but it's disabled by default, Chrome had removed it many version ago, and Edge never had it from the beginning. IE11 still has the option.
- zzo38computer 6y ago
  I think it may be helpful to have some privileged commands which are only allowed in user stylesheets. (Additional unprivileged commands may also be useful, such as ability to specify colours by index number, and ability to specify the names of user configuration values where other values are expected.)
goto11 6y ago
CSS was supposed to work like that - a user style sheet can override the site stylesheet (which in turn override the built-in browser stylesheet). Of course this assumes users are competent designers. I think reader mode and similar is a much better solution to the problem.

warkdarrior 6y ago

> assuming the user is an expert at it, rather than the author of the document But the user is NOT an expert at styling a website, this is why we have designers to figure out which combination of layout, fonts, and colors work well together.

zzo38computer 6y ago
Well, they will make styles that are slow and/or that many users do not like. Instead, let it be subject to the user configuration; the web browser designer can put in suitable default settings.
- yoz-y 6y ago
  Expert users can already do this using extensions though.
calvinmorrison 6y ago
Users generally don't give a shit about styling as much as UX designers justifying thier salaries. There are probably more people who suffer daily from accessibility on the web than UX designers in total

userbinator 6y ago

Some browsers have (had) user stylesheets, which can do exactly that. Firefox (barely) still has that option but it's disabled by default, Chrome had removed it many version ago, and Edge never had it from the beginning. IE11 still has the option.

zzo38computer 6y ago
I think it may be helpful to have some privileged commands which are only allowed in user stylesheets. (Additional unprivileged commands may also be useful, such as ability to specify colours by index number, and ability to specify the names of user configuration values where other values are expected.)

goto11 6y ago

CSS was supposed to work like that - a user style sheet can override the site stylesheet (which in turn override the built-in browser stylesheet). Of course this assumes users are competent designers. I think reader mode and similar is a much better solution to the problem.