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Seems like this could all be resolved if you just called it "Champagne-style". Makes it clear that you're trying to reproduce the same qualities and also that i

Seems like this could all be resolved if you just called it "Champagne-style". Makes it clear that you're trying to reproduce the same qualities and also that it's not an official expert of the region. Even better, stop referring to it exclusively by the location, as if Champagne, France is not capable of producing other wines. Then you can have "Champagne sparkling white wine" and "California sparkling white wine" (or even "Champagne-style California sparkling white wine"). Of course, colloquially people will still refer to it as champagne, but I'm talking about what's printed on the bottle / marketed.

libertine 6y ago
>Seems like this could all be resolved if you just called it "Champagne-style". Makes it clear that you're trying to reproduce the same qualities and also that it's not an official expert of the region. Well some cultures have different words specifically for that. >Even better, stop referring to it exclusively by the location, as if Champagne, France is not capable of producing other wines. I don't understand this part, because I see no where implicit that Champagne doesn't have the capacity of producing other wines, just by calling Champagne to Champagne. For example, where I'm from - Portugal - we make the distinction between Champagne and "sparkling wine" (I couldn't find a better translation, the word is Espumante) - even if the outcome is an attempt to make it similar to Champagne, it's not champagne. It's two different words that define different things. You go to a restaurant you ask for Champagne, you get Champagne. You ask for Sparkling Wine, you get Sparkling Whine. Because when you buy Champagne you want wine with particular properties that are particular from the region. If you don't like Champagne, you don't want wine with those qualities and you ask for something else that is not Champagne, but yet can still be a white wine with foam. Plus you talk about this like this is a gimmick. It's not something "new", it's been like this for centuries, it's in our dictionary. Not mandated by law, or trademarks, - it wasn't a marketer that woke up one day and decided to make that "growth hack" - it's cultural. To us it's like calling two distinct fishes the same name just because they are blueish and have spots. Same for example, to Porto. Porto Wine is done Porto region, has a particular taste. You have other liquors, but Porto is Porto.

libertine 6y ago

>Seems like this could all be resolved if you just called it "Champagne-style". Makes it clear that you're trying to reproduce the same qualities and also that it's not an official expert of the region. Well some cultures have different words specifically for that. >Even better, stop referring to it exclusively by the location, as if Champagne, France is not capable of producing other wines. I don't understand this part, because I see no where implicit that Champagne doesn't have the capacity of producing other wines, just by calling Champagne to Champagne. For example, where I'm from - Portugal - we make the distinction between Champagne and "sparkling wine" (I couldn't find a better translation, the word is Espumante) - even if the outcome is an attempt to make it similar to Champagne, it's not champagne. It's two different words that define different things. You go to a restaurant you ask for Champagne, you get Champagne. You ask for Sparkling Wine, you get Sparkling Whine. Because when you buy Champagne you want wine with particular properties that are particular from the region. If you don't like Champagne, you don't want wine with those qualities and you ask for something else that is not Champagne, but yet can still be a white wine with foam. Plus you talk about this like this is a gimmick. It's not something "new", it's been like this for centuries, it's in our dictionary. Not mandated by law, or trademarks, - it wasn't a marketer that woke up one day and decided to make that "growth hack" - it's cultural. To us it's like calling two distinct fishes the same name just because they are blueish and have spots. Same for example, to Porto. Porto Wine is done Porto region, has a particular taste. You have other liquors, but Porto is Porto.