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For Canada, its not always about comp. If you're Indian there is a 100+ year (projected) waitlist for US permanent residency. Chinese have a 5 year waitlist and

For Canada, its not always about comp. If you're Indian there is a 100+ year (projected) waitlist for US permanent residency. Chinese have a 5 year waitlist and every other nationality has no waitlist. This means for the whole waiting period you need to be employed (in a job that's related to your degree) or you lose legal status. Compare this to Canada where you arrive with permanent residency, have good healthcare and don't have to worry about losing your residence. Easier to put down roots. The best deal is for those who earn their stock grants in the US and make a mid-career move to Canada. They start with a good asset base.

actuator 6y ago
That is very specific to Indians. What percentage of them make up the people in unis/research? From your comment it seems like rest aren't that affected by this. The stock grants in US ones definitely are better off, a lot of Europeans also use this and go back.
- vsskanth 6y ago
  Majority of STEM grad students in the US are either from India or China. They are also the biggest pool of potential immigrants (2B+ combined population). For Chinese, it's becoming more and more attractive to just stay back (current geopolitical tensions aren't helping). If you're a EU citizen, grad school in the US is not that attractive comparitively unless you're specifically targeting a lab. Over there you have flexible options like doing a PhD through research projects at work (some govts even give you a subsidy for this). Full time grad students have decent benefits too.
  - actuator 6y ago
    As far as I understand most of the Indian STEM(specially CS) students treat higher studies in US as a pathway to a job in US. I was asking as to how many eventually go into academia professionally. For Chinese, I think there are a lot of other strong reasons to stay back. As I understand from the amount of research coming out of their unis in mainland, they seem to have improved a lot there. Also, R&D in some industries reaching on par to Western counterparts, with jobs paying quite well in big cities, so little reason for them to move away from their homeland.

actuator 6y ago

That is very specific to Indians. What percentage of them make up the people in unis/research? From your comment it seems like rest aren't that affected by this. The stock grants in US ones definitely are better off, a lot of Europeans also use this and go back.

vsskanth 6y ago
Majority of STEM grad students in the US are either from India or China. They are also the biggest pool of potential immigrants (2B+ combined population). For Chinese, it's becoming more and more attractive to just stay back (current geopolitical tensions aren't helping). If you're a EU citizen, grad school in the US is not that attractive comparitively unless you're specifically targeting a lab. Over there you have flexible options like doing a PhD through research projects at work (some govts even give you a subsidy for this). Full time grad students have decent benefits too.
- actuator 6y ago
  As far as I understand most of the Indian STEM(specially CS) students treat higher studies in US as a pathway to a job in US. I was asking as to how many eventually go into academia professionally. For Chinese, I think there are a lot of other strong reasons to stay back. As I understand from the amount of research coming out of their unis in mainland, they seem to have improved a lot there. Also, R&D in some industries reaching on par to Western counterparts, with jobs paying quite well in big cities, so little reason for them to move away from their homeland.