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> Now I wouldn't move there no matter what. Maybe for some absolutely stupid amount of money. :) stupid amount of money , what would this be for you, compared

> Now I wouldn't move there no matter what. Maybe for some absolutely stupid amount of money. :) stupid amount of money , what would this be for you, compared to current amount of money you make? > with an increase in pay Maybe they were low balled. I will bet my house that they will move to SV in a heartbeat if they were paid what SV engineers get paid. Just wait till pandemic is over.

gambiting 6y ago
I don't even know, I have everything I need, I honestly don't see or have a need to change a job for more money. If someone offered me 500k I'd obviously give it a serious consideration because that's "stupid amount of money", but even then I'd do it for a year or two and come back(I could get several houses for that amount of money here lol). But like I said, that's true of anywhere - offer me 500k and I'll work in North Korea for a bit. >>. I will bet my house that they will move to SV in a heartbeat if they were paid what SV engineers get paid I don't know, I have a friend who moved from a £50k/year job in UK to a $250k/year job in the US(SV) and he's currently planning to move back, he massively dislikes everything about working and living in the US. Money isn't everything. But of course, these are anecdotes.
- dominotw 6y ago
  > he's currently planning to move back Tell me when he actually moves back :), i guarantee you that he is BS-ing. All my indian friends always talk about "moving back" but we never do. Everyone knows that its BS but we let it slide. remember all the celebreties that vowed to renounce their citizenship if trump is elected. Yep, they are still here. every one of them.
  - ecocentrik 6y ago
    You seem to be actively discounting other people's opinions. Why not just accept that the US is no longer aligned with the interests of some (not all) skilled foreign workers. OP does seem to be open to discussions of increased compensation which seems to be one way to address the additional risk foreign workers have to manage in the US.
scarface74 6y ago
Heck I wouldn’t move to SV for any realistic amount of money I could make and I live in the southeast US. Once you have “enough” you don’t have to make choices based on making more.
- dominotw 6y ago
  so you are willing to work 20 yrs of your life in southeast of US vs working 10yrs in SV and retiring to wherever you want?
  - scarface74 6y ago
    Have you heard the story of the Mexican fisherman? You mean if I were hypothetically 27 years old, with a 3100 square foot house in the burbs where I am paying $2200/month mortgage, married with 2.1 kids, both my wife and I working and we are able to put one spouses entire salary toward long term goals, I could move to SV, work 10 years and move somewhere cheaper to buy the big house in the burbs so I could enjoy the nice laid back life that I already enjoy? I was a lot older when that decision became a realistic possibility for me to pursue. But I made the same calculation. In hindsight, I’m glad I did. I chose to go down a road that allowed me to work remotely for BigTech. But I had no idea that I would fall into this position. I thought I would be working for a local consulting company at best when my youngest graduated.
    - gambiting 6y ago
      Bingo. I have a house, two brand new cars, can afford holidays few times a year(and actually have the holiday allowance to go on them), growing savings, growing pension fund.....so why would I move to US and deal with all the BS of American life? To achieve exactly the same thing, but maybe with a slightly bigger house and a fancier car? I'll pass thanks.
      - scarface74 6y ago
        We have two cars that sit in the garage now most of the time because we don’t go anywhere (Post Covid). We don’t buy lunch out, we don’t eat out, no gym memberships etc.

gambiting 6y ago

I don't even know, I have everything I need, I honestly don't see or have a need to change a job for more money. If someone offered me 500k I'd obviously give it a serious consideration because that's "stupid amount of money", but even then I'd do it for a year or two and come back(I could get several houses for that amount of money here lol). But like I said, that's true of anywhere - offer me 500k and I'll work in North Korea for a bit. >>. I will bet my house that they will move to SV in a heartbeat if they were paid what SV engineers get paid I don't know, I have a friend who moved from a £50k/year job in UK to a $250k/year job in the US(SV) and he's currently planning to move back, he massively dislikes everything about working and living in the US. Money isn't everything. But of course, these are anecdotes.

dominotw 6y ago
> he's currently planning to move back Tell me when he actually moves back :), i guarantee you that he is BS-ing. All my indian friends always talk about "moving back" but we never do. Everyone knows that its BS but we let it slide. remember all the celebreties that vowed to renounce their citizenship if trump is elected. Yep, they are still here. every one of them.
- ecocentrik 6y ago
  You seem to be actively discounting other people's opinions. Why not just accept that the US is no longer aligned with the interests of some (not all) skilled foreign workers. OP does seem to be open to discussions of increased compensation which seems to be one way to address the additional risk foreign workers have to manage in the US.

scarface74 6y ago

Heck I wouldn’t move to SV for any realistic amount of money I could make and I live in the southeast US. Once you have “enough” you don’t have to make choices based on making more.

dominotw 6y ago
so you are willing to work 20 yrs of your life in southeast of US vs working 10yrs in SV and retiring to wherever you want?
- scarface74 6y ago
  Have you heard the story of the Mexican fisherman? You mean if I were hypothetically 27 years old, with a 3100 square foot house in the burbs where I am paying $2200/month mortgage, married with 2.1 kids, both my wife and I working and we are able to put one spouses entire salary toward long term goals, I could move to SV, work 10 years and move somewhere cheaper to buy the big house in the burbs so I could enjoy the nice laid back life that I already enjoy? I was a lot older when that decision became a realistic possibility for me to pursue. But I made the same calculation. In hindsight, I’m glad I did. I chose to go down a road that allowed me to work remotely for BigTech. But I had no idea that I would fall into this position. I thought I would be working for a local consulting company at best when my youngest graduated.
  - gambiting 6y ago
    Bingo. I have a house, two brand new cars, can afford holidays few times a year(and actually have the holiday allowance to go on them), growing savings, growing pension fund.....so why would I move to US and deal with all the BS of American life? To achieve exactly the same thing, but maybe with a slightly bigger house and a fancier car? I'll pass thanks.
    - scarface74 6y ago
      We have two cars that sit in the garage now most of the time because we don’t go anywhere (Post Covid). We don’t buy lunch out, we don’t eat out, no gym memberships etc.