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So DevOps then?

by notadev 6y ago

So DevOps then?

qznc 6y ago
It is about replacing the "Dev" part with "buying/downloading" thus VendorOps.
- zurfer 6y ago
  Interesting thought. I think this was also true in the past for many people: Oracle Sysadmin, SAP System Consultant,... You can build your whole career specialising in the stack of one vendor. Maybe today and in the future there will be more jobs like that: AWS Solution Architect, Salesforce Technical Consultant, ...
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- chrisrhoden 6y ago
  Pretty wild assertion that using rust crates eliminates development.
  - qznc 6y ago
    I can imagine a big Rust project where there is person who does nothing but updating dependencies. Trivial changes in the code he will do but most is delegated to the developers. The job includes: * Analyze dependency updates for breaking and performance impacts * Coordinate the cleanup of deprecated API use * Feedback to upstream * Resolving integration issues (usually by delegation and controlling) This guy does not write significant amounts of code but will still create lots of commits.
    - chrisrhoden 6y ago
      As near as I can tell, the post is a response to comments in reply to a previous post which essentially states that the _existence of cargo_ is bad because there are bad libraries available. This post further asserts that folks who like the fact that libraries are easily available are "not very good at something being discussed" and have "Peter Principled" themselves. It also states that they are, "almost rational." What you're describing is an under-performer, or perhaps someone who is working specifically in a maintenance capacity (likely with a title that reflects that!). I don't think that is what the original post is talking about, but perhaps I have misread.
  - chrisrhoden 6y ago
    I guess this comment being downvoted indicates that this perspective is more widespread than I thought - can someone please explain to me how you would go about structuring a project with zero software development using libraries available via your preferred programming language's package manager?

So DevOps then?

qznc 6y ago

It is about replacing the "Dev" part with "buying/downloading" thus VendorOps.

zurfer 6y ago
Interesting thought. I think this was also true in the past for many people: Oracle Sysadmin, SAP System Consultant,... You can build your whole career specialising in the stack of one vendor. Maybe today and in the future there will be more jobs like that: AWS Solution Architect, Salesforce Technical Consultant, ...
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chrisrhoden 6y ago
Pretty wild assertion that using rust crates eliminates development.
- qznc 6y ago
  I can imagine a big Rust project where there is person who does nothing but updating dependencies. Trivial changes in the code he will do but most is delegated to the developers. The job includes: * Analyze dependency updates for breaking and performance impacts * Coordinate the cleanup of deprecated API use * Feedback to upstream * Resolving integration issues (usually by delegation and controlling) This guy does not write significant amounts of code but will still create lots of commits.
  - chrisrhoden 6y ago
    As near as I can tell, the post is a response to comments in reply to a previous post which essentially states that the _existence of cargo_ is bad because there are bad libraries available. This post further asserts that folks who like the fact that libraries are easily available are "not very good at something being discussed" and have "Peter Principled" themselves. It also states that they are, "almost rational." What you're describing is an under-performer, or perhaps someone who is working specifically in a maintenance capacity (likely with a title that reflects that!). I don't think that is what the original post is talking about, but perhaps I have misread.
- chrisrhoden 6y ago
  I guess this comment being downvoted indicates that this perspective is more widespread than I thought - can someone please explain to me how you would go about structuring a project with zero software development using libraries available via your preferred programming language's package manager?