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Is there any evidence at all that global warming is causing any migration? I look at the problems in Syria and I’m definitely not saying “Yep global warming ca

Is there any evidence at all that global warming is causing any migration? I look at the problems in Syria and I’m definitely not saying “Yep global warming causes that.”

tito 6y ago
The World Bank's Groundswell Report [0] from 2018 may be a useful resource for you: "Internal climate migrants are rapidly becoming the human face of climate change. According to the new World Bank report "Groundswell - Preparing for Internal Climate Migration", without urgent global and national climate action, Sub-Saharan Africa, South Asia and Latin America could see more than 140 million people move within their countries’ borders by 2050." [0] https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/infographic/2018/03/19/groundswell---preparing-for-internal-climate-migration https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/infographic/2018/03/19/gro...
- Udik 6y ago
  Ok. So that infographic mentions 147 million migrants, of which 86 in sub-saharian Africa. It also says that the population of sub-saharian Africa is projected to double in the same timeframe, but of course it's easier and less expensive to decarbonize the entire world than to introduce family planning practices in Africa?
tsimionescu 6y ago
Given that one of the 10 biggest countries in the world has virtually no elevation and is already having drinking water problems (Bangladesh), a migrant crisis is certain.
- Udik 6y ago
  The water problems of Bangladesh seem to have little to do with climate change. It's a mix of political problems with neighboring countries, arsenic contamination of the soil, lack of sanitation.
ant6n 6y ago
Drought is a big factor for the conflict in Syria.
- Udik 6y ago
  Sure, it's not the fact that the US, UK and Saudi Arabia financed, trained and armed the rebels with 1 billion dollars a year [1]. Noo, it's climate change. Imagine what would happen in your country if any group of rebels or terrorists where given weapons and training for several billions to take down the government. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_Sycamore https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_Sycamore
tonyedgecombe 6y ago
The "Arab Spring" kicked off in response to escalating bread prices following droughts in Russia, Ukraine, China and Argentina and torrential storms in Canada, Australia and Brazil. All major wheat and grain producers. I might or even probably would have happened anyway but climate change probably accelerated it.

Is there any evidence at all that global warming is causing any migration? I look at the problems in Syria and I’m definitely not saying “Yep global warming causes that.”

tito 6y ago

The World Bank's Groundswell Report [0] from 2018 may be a useful resource for you: "Internal climate migrants are rapidly becoming the human face of climate change. According to the new World Bank report "Groundswell - Preparing for Internal Climate Migration", without urgent global and national climate action, Sub-Saharan Africa, South Asia and Latin America could see more than 140 million people move within their countries’ borders by 2050." [0] https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/infographic/2018/03/19/groundswell---preparing-for-internal-climate-migration https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/infographic/2018/03/19/gro...

Udik 6y ago
Ok. So that infographic mentions 147 million migrants, of which 86 in sub-saharian Africa. It also says that the population of sub-saharian Africa is projected to double in the same timeframe, but of course it's easier and less expensive to decarbonize the entire world than to introduce family planning practices in Africa?

tsimionescu 6y ago

Given that one of the 10 biggest countries in the world has virtually no elevation and is already having drinking water problems (Bangladesh), a migrant crisis is certain.

Udik 6y ago
The water problems of Bangladesh seem to have little to do with climate change. It's a mix of political problems with neighboring countries, arsenic contamination of the soil, lack of sanitation.

ant6n 6y ago

Drought is a big factor for the conflict in Syria.

Udik 6y ago
Sure, it's not the fact that the US, UK and Saudi Arabia financed, trained and armed the rebels with 1 billion dollars a year [1]. Noo, it's climate change. Imagine what would happen in your country if any group of rebels or terrorists where given weapons and training for several billions to take down the government. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_Sycamore https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_Sycamore

tonyedgecombe 6y ago

The "Arab Spring" kicked off in response to escalating bread prices following droughts in Russia, Ukraine, China and Argentina and torrential storms in Canada, Australia and Brazil. All major wheat and grain producers. I might or even probably would have happened anyway but climate change probably accelerated it.