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This just points to the absurdity of the whole situation. I mean in what world should bars be open and universities closed? It’s a complete failure of prioritie

This just points to the absurdity of the whole situation. I mean in what world should bars be open and universities closed? It’s a complete failure of priorities.

jachee 6y ago
You're right. The bars should be closed, too. We should be spending the entire defense budget on paying for people to stay home, stay safe, and to get them what they need; as well as funding as much scientific research as feasible to fight this clear and present danger to our lives and livelihoods.
- ketamine__ 6y ago
  In what world is a virus that is asymptomatic for 99.9% of the population a clear and present danger to our lives?
  - cbsks 6y ago
    > asymptomatic for 99.9% of the population Source? I didn’t think it was nearly that high.
  - Wowfunhappy 6y ago
    Even the very highest estimates of asymptomatic infection don't put it anywhere near that high, unless you're talking about only the first few days or some such.
  - ps747 6y ago
    That's just not true. The CDC estimates that between 10% and 70% of of cases are asymptomatic with a best estimate of 40%. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scena... As we saw in Italy and New York, COVID-19 has the potential to overwhelm hospitals. Officially, almost 170,000 Americans have died. NYTimes estimates that COVID-19 already caused over 200,000 deaths by comparing against the expected number of deaths if we weren't in a pandemic. So yes, COVID-19 is a clear and present danger to our lives.
    - ketamine__ 6y ago
      You're leaving out that most people have mild symptoms. That is dishonest. That is not a lot of deaths. There are over 600,000 deaths from heart disease every year.
  - jachee 6y ago
    Yeah, you need to stop spreading misinformation. This doesn't look like a "99.9% asymptomatic" virus: https://www.ft.com/content/a2901ce8-5eb7-4633-b89c-cbdf5b386938 https://www.ft.com/content/a2901ce8-5eb7-4633-b89c-cbdf5b386... And that's one of the MOST conservative media outlets in the world.
    - alentist 6y ago
      > that's one of the MOST conservative media outlets in the world That is far from true. https://www.allsides.com/news-source/financial-times-media-bias https://www.allsides.com/news-source/financial-times-media-b... https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/financial-times/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/financial-times/
      - jachee 6y ago
        Sorry, I meant the traditional definition of "conservative" with regard to media, which is to say ensuring that only unbiased facts are reported as best as possible.
    - ketamine__ 6y ago
      Most people have mild symptoms. You're leaving that out and being dishonest.

This just points to the absurdity of the whole situation. I mean in what world should bars be open and universities closed? It’s a complete failure of priorities.

jachee 6y ago

You're right. The bars should be closed, too. We should be spending the entire defense budget on paying for people to stay home, stay safe, and to get them what they need; as well as funding as much scientific research as feasible to fight this clear and present danger to our lives and livelihoods.

ketamine__ 6y ago
In what world is a virus that is asymptomatic for 99.9% of the population a clear and present danger to our lives?
- cbsks 6y ago
  > asymptomatic for 99.9% of the population Source? I didn’t think it was nearly that high.
- Wowfunhappy 6y ago
  Even the very highest estimates of asymptomatic infection don't put it anywhere near that high, unless you're talking about only the first few days or some such.
- ps747 6y ago
  That's just not true. The CDC estimates that between 10% and 70% of of cases are asymptomatic with a best estimate of 40%. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scena... As we saw in Italy and New York, COVID-19 has the potential to overwhelm hospitals. Officially, almost 170,000 Americans have died. NYTimes estimates that COVID-19 already caused over 200,000 deaths by comparing against the expected number of deaths if we weren't in a pandemic. So yes, COVID-19 is a clear and present danger to our lives.
  - ketamine__ 6y ago
    You're leaving out that most people have mild symptoms. That is dishonest. That is not a lot of deaths. There are over 600,000 deaths from heart disease every year.
- jachee 6y ago
  Yeah, you need to stop spreading misinformation. This doesn't look like a "99.9% asymptomatic" virus: https://www.ft.com/content/a2901ce8-5eb7-4633-b89c-cbdf5b386938 https://www.ft.com/content/a2901ce8-5eb7-4633-b89c-cbdf5b386... And that's one of the MOST conservative media outlets in the world.
  - alentist 6y ago
    > that's one of the MOST conservative media outlets in the world That is far from true. https://www.allsides.com/news-source/financial-times-media-bias https://www.allsides.com/news-source/financial-times-media-b... https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/financial-times/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/financial-times/
    - jachee 6y ago
      Sorry, I meant the traditional definition of "conservative" with regard to media, which is to say ensuring that only unbiased facts are reported as best as possible.
  - ketamine__ 6y ago
    Most people have mild symptoms. You're leaving that out and being dishonest.