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A review of Bel, Eve, and a silly VR rant

86 points by lemming 6y ago

atonalfreerider 6y ago
This is beautifully written. Please check out primitive.io. We have been implementing a VR abstraction of large programming systems.
- AYBABTME 6y ago
  Looked quickly and didn't see a novel, visual programming language. Did I miss it? I think a visual programming language manipulated in 3D space, instead of being text based, would be interesting and liberating.
  - rocky1138 6y ago
    Have you tried Neos? It's basically the most in-depth and powerful virtual reality scripting tool ever created. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=STZN6qTGRbQ&t=253s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=STZN6qTGRbQ&t=253s
    - AYBABTME 6y ago
      Looks interesting, but what I have in mind is something that would try to use something else than text entirely, something more geometry-based, and be powerful enough to be a general purpose programming language. I'm not even sure it's possible, and I find myself asking the question "Can a general purpose programming language be entirely textfree (a.k.a. not based on a string of symbols/tape of infinite length)?"
xixixao 6y ago
Mental note (more relevant to Lisp general than this particular piece): I need to write a note on the comparison between Lisps and code generation. They are obviously related. But while I haven't seen large companies where Lisp would be widely adopted, I bet most large companies heavily employ code generation (ours certainly does).
iamwil 6y ago
William Taysom has did this strangeloop talk that I thought had nuggets here and there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voG5-15aDu4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voG5-15aDu4
vsareto 6y ago
> But you cannot use text: not a lot, not up close, not comfortably, not with the current technology. What an opportunity! A dyslexic's paradise: an infinitely malleable world in which text is better left banished. Say what now? You can use text, it just can't follow the headset around like a typical game HUD.
- saurik 6y ago
  Sure... but "not a lot, not up close, not comfortably": the resolution is just too low with "the current technology".

86 points by lemming 6y ago

This is beautifully written. Please check out primitive.io. We have been implementing a VR abstraction of large programming systems.

AYBABTME 6y ago
Looked quickly and didn't see a novel, visual programming language. Did I miss it? I think a visual programming language manipulated in 3D space, instead of being text based, would be interesting and liberating.
- rocky1138 6y ago
  Have you tried Neos? It's basically the most in-depth and powerful virtual reality scripting tool ever created. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=STZN6qTGRbQ&t=253s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=STZN6qTGRbQ&t=253s
  - AYBABTME 6y ago
    Looks interesting, but what I have in mind is something that would try to use something else than text entirely, something more geometry-based, and be powerful enough to be a general purpose programming language. I'm not even sure it's possible, and I find myself asking the question "Can a general purpose programming language be entirely textfree (a.k.a. not based on a string of symbols/tape of infinite length)?"

xixixao 6y ago

Mental note (more relevant to Lisp general than this particular piece): I need to write a note on the comparison between Lisps and code generation. They are obviously related. But while I haven't seen large companies where Lisp would be widely adopted, I bet most large companies heavily employ code generation (ours certainly does).

iamwil 6y ago

William Taysom has did this strangeloop talk that I thought had nuggets here and there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voG5-15aDu4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voG5-15aDu4

vsareto 6y ago

> But you cannot use text: not a lot, not up close, not comfortably, not with the current technology. What an opportunity! A dyslexic's paradise: an infinitely malleable world in which text is better left banished. Say what now? You can use text, it just can't follow the headset around like a typical game HUD.

saurik 6y ago
Sure... but "not a lot, not up close, not comfortably": the resolution is just too low with "the current technology".