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I'm not about to say that this is good, but I have no sympathy here. The fact that this company exists is a major failing of our society. $1.18 billion in reve

by suby 6y ago

I'm not about to say that this is good, but I have no sympathy here. The fact that this company exists is a major failing of our society. $1.18 billion in revenue 2019 alone.

weaksauce 6y ago
> I'm not about to say that this is good yeah the fact that this company exists and is making a lot of money doing it and likely has an undue influence in how our laws are made makes me shed not a single tear. I am only waiting to see if they have backups for their data; if they do i will shed one.
- toomuchtodo 6y ago
  Not all heroes wear capes (assuming threat actors don't intend to release any data they're taking hostage).
  - KONAir 6y ago
    If I didn't know better I'd have belivied this is Vigilante Cyberpunk action.
    - robotnikman 6y ago
      Phineas Fisher is a vigilante hacker which comes to mind as someone who would do something like this
- lotsofpulp 6y ago
  > yeah the fact that this company exists and is making a lot of money doing it and likely has an undue influence in how our laws are made makes me shed not a single tear. I don’t think so. There is a huge undercurrent of government is bad in the US that can be seen in the voting records of the population, and I believe it’s a fundamental issue of people being tribal and not wanting “their” tribe’s resources to benefit another’s tribe.
  - TheAdamAndChe 6y ago
    That undercurrent of "government is bad" doesn't come from nowhere. It comes largely from Fox News, which has advertisers that benefit from this message. It comes from our politicians who accept bribes to drive legislation. It comes from a general distrust of the government because of mismanagement.
    - majormajor 6y ago
      It's much older than Fox News and also has plenty of racial origins. A lot of people fought very hard for a century to try to prevent national government from being able to tell them they couldn't have slaves.
      - nelsondev 6y ago
        The history goes farther back than the Civil War, and I don’t see strong evidence that it’s always racial in its origins. A lot of immigrants, both recent and historical, came to the USA because they didn’t like the government in their home country, Pilgrims as a key example, Falun Gong members leaving China as a more recent example. The general distrust of a strong government is still part of American culture.
    - ipnon 6y ago
      Government may be bad, but private businesses are not accountable in the same way as an elected representative. It's the accountability I want. Can we expect to see any judicial recourse for this gross criminal negligence here?
    - Floegipoky 6y ago
      There is an anarchistic streak that has run through the US since before it was founded. Partly due to the realities of life on the ever-moving frontier which defined a large portion of the country's history, partly from the political pressures which caused many to emigrate in the first place, partly from fighting a bloody war for independence against an overbearing government. Mistrust of government has always been a defining feature of American politics.
amznthrwaway 6y ago
It is good.
paul_f 6y ago
I assume you are aware it is hospitals and medical practices that are out the money when people don't pay? Why blame the company doing the collecting on their behalf

by suby 6y ago

I'm not about to say that this is good, but I have no sympathy here. The fact that this company exists is a major failing of our society. $1.18 billion in revenue 2019 alone.

weaksauce 6y ago

> I'm not about to say that this is good yeah the fact that this company exists and is making a lot of money doing it and likely has an undue influence in how our laws are made makes me shed not a single tear. I am only waiting to see if they have backups for their data; if they do i will shed one.

toomuchtodo 6y ago
Not all heroes wear capes (assuming threat actors don't intend to release any data they're taking hostage).
- KONAir 6y ago
  If I didn't know better I'd have belivied this is Vigilante Cyberpunk action.
  - robotnikman 6y ago
    Phineas Fisher is a vigilante hacker which comes to mind as someone who would do something like this
lotsofpulp 6y ago
> yeah the fact that this company exists and is making a lot of money doing it and likely has an undue influence in how our laws are made makes me shed not a single tear. I don’t think so. There is a huge undercurrent of government is bad in the US that can be seen in the voting records of the population, and I believe it’s a fundamental issue of people being tribal and not wanting “their” tribe’s resources to benefit another’s tribe.
- TheAdamAndChe 6y ago
  That undercurrent of "government is bad" doesn't come from nowhere. It comes largely from Fox News, which has advertisers that benefit from this message. It comes from our politicians who accept bribes to drive legislation. It comes from a general distrust of the government because of mismanagement.
  - majormajor 6y ago
    It's much older than Fox News and also has plenty of racial origins. A lot of people fought very hard for a century to try to prevent national government from being able to tell them they couldn't have slaves.
    - nelsondev 6y ago
      The history goes farther back than the Civil War, and I don’t see strong evidence that it’s always racial in its origins. A lot of immigrants, both recent and historical, came to the USA because they didn’t like the government in their home country, Pilgrims as a key example, Falun Gong members leaving China as a more recent example. The general distrust of a strong government is still part of American culture.
  - ipnon 6y ago
    Government may be bad, but private businesses are not accountable in the same way as an elected representative. It's the accountability I want. Can we expect to see any judicial recourse for this gross criminal negligence here?
  - Floegipoky 6y ago
    There is an anarchistic streak that has run through the US since before it was founded. Partly due to the realities of life on the ever-moving frontier which defined a large portion of the country's history, partly from the political pressures which caused many to emigrate in the first place, partly from fighting a bloody war for independence against an overbearing government. Mistrust of government has always been a defining feature of American politics.

amznthrwaway 6y ago

It is good.

paul_f 6y ago

I assume you are aware it is hospitals and medical practices that are out the money when people don't pay? Why blame the company doing the collecting on their behalf