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I completely agree where you're coming from however, in the case of Mozilla I believe that the reference is relevant. If you see that the company is producing

by monksy 6y ago

I completely agree where you're coming from however, in the case of Mozilla I believe that the reference is relevant. If you see that the company is producing a good product that you're donating to support. Would the "customers" (supporters) want to support the time and cost associated with kicking out the CEO over personal+(believed to be) private activities? (Context: Brandon Eich donated 1k of his personal money to a conservative/anti-gay org, and an activist within mozilla found+escalated this and claimed hostile work environment, eventually got him removed) If I was donating, I would be pissed to know that valuable time was wasted about that and the loss of talent of personal politics and disagreement.

dang 6y ago
I'm responding to the word "degenerate", which was name-calling and flamebait. I don't see any problem with the comment otherwise. I've taken out the word "activism" in my GP comment to make that clearer. Edit: "don't see any problem" does not mean I agree with the comment. It means I don't see any other place that it broke the site guidelines.
micv 6y ago
What part of being heavily opposed to homophobic organisation is degenerate in your opinion?
- dang 6y ago
  Please don't start this again. HN is a site for curiosity, not repetition (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=curiosity%20repetition%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...) and particularly not flamewars (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html), which are the most destructive form of repetition. The GP should not have posted flamebait, and the repliers should not have taken the bait.
  - schwartzworld 6y ago
    lol, you brought it up.
BrendanEich 6y ago
No one ever claimed hostile work environment. Where'd you get that? The L.A. Times published the CA state database of political donations >= $100 in size, activists searched it for known names. That was in 2012.
- monksy 6y ago
  Hey Brenden! I mentioned this before and the claims were that you lost the "trust of the employees" infering that the work environment wasn't feasible. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23681475 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23681475 I think for a private action that's insane. But oh well.

by monksy 6y ago

dang 6y ago

I'm responding to the word "degenerate", which was name-calling and flamebait. I don't see any problem with the comment otherwise. I've taken out the word "activism" in my GP comment to make that clearer. Edit: "don't see any problem" does not mean I agree with the comment. It means I don't see any other place that it broke the site guidelines.

micv 6y ago

What part of being heavily opposed to homophobic organisation is degenerate in your opinion?

dang 6y ago
Please don't start this again. HN is a site for curiosity, not repetition (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=curiosity%20repetition%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...) and particularly not flamewars (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html), which are the most destructive form of repetition. The GP should not have posted flamebait, and the repliers should not have taken the bait.
- schwartzworld 6y ago
  lol, you brought it up.

BrendanEich 6y ago

No one ever claimed hostile work environment. Where'd you get that? The L.A. Times published the CA state database of political donations >= $100 in size, activists searched it for known names. That was in 2012.

monksy 6y ago
Hey Brenden! I mentioned this before and the claims were that you lost the "trust of the employees" infering that the work environment wasn't feasible. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23681475 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23681475 I think for a private action that's insane. But oh well.