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Comparing employees from reputable companies with recent grads that have at best internship experience seems a bit silly no? There are lots of companies I woul

Comparing employees from reputable companies with recent grads that have at best internship experience seems a bit silly no? There are lots of companies I would take an employee from in a heartbeat. Taking a recent grad is a gamble in most cases.

est31 6y ago
It's comparable in so far that both are on the job market right now. From what I read, recent grads seem to have an extremely bad experience because of Corona. It seems that the virus has enlarged the gap in how people just starting their careers are treated vs people from a place like Mozilla, instead of treating both equally worse.
- xmprt 6y ago
  Why would you expect companies to take a risk on a new grad when they could instead hire someone who has already proven themselves at a different company? Especially during a pandemic where there's so much uncertainty. I'm not saying it's right but it makes sense.
  - Mirioron 6y ago
    Probably because they could hire about 2-4 recent grads for the price of someone that has proven themselves.
    - not2b 6y ago
      And in the short term, the proven developer will be significantly more productive than the 2-4 recent grads and require much less work to manage.
    - scarface74 6y ago
      How would a recent grad cope working fully remotely without any mentorship? I would much rather go with someone with more experience. That being said, I have to admit that I was very impressed with the work done by the two interns that were on my team (at $BigTech) who are leaving next week. But they had their own projects and weren’t on critical paths.
      - fzzzy 6y ago
        We just had a fully remote intern because of corona. He was great. The manager who puts an intern on the critical path is a very bad manager.
        scarface74 6y ago
        We have no idea how they - or any fresh grads would do as full time employees. I think they would do okay. But they are treated with kid gloves compared to FTE’s.

est31 6y ago

It's comparable in so far that both are on the job market right now. From what I read, recent grads seem to have an extremely bad experience because of Corona. It seems that the virus has enlarged the gap in how people just starting their careers are treated vs people from a place like Mozilla, instead of treating both equally worse.

xmprt 6y ago
Why would you expect companies to take a risk on a new grad when they could instead hire someone who has already proven themselves at a different company? Especially during a pandemic where there's so much uncertainty. I'm not saying it's right but it makes sense.
- Mirioron 6y ago
  Probably because they could hire about 2-4 recent grads for the price of someone that has proven themselves.
  - not2b 6y ago
    And in the short term, the proven developer will be significantly more productive than the 2-4 recent grads and require much less work to manage.
  - scarface74 6y ago
    How would a recent grad cope working fully remotely without any mentorship? I would much rather go with someone with more experience. That being said, I have to admit that I was very impressed with the work done by the two interns that were on my team (at $BigTech) who are leaving next week. But they had their own projects and weren’t on critical paths.
    - fzzzy 6y ago
      We just had a fully remote intern because of corona. He was great. The manager who puts an intern on the critical path is a very bad manager.
      - scarface74 6y ago
        We have no idea how they - or any fresh grads would do as full time employees. I think they would do okay. But they are treated with kid gloves compared to FTE’s.