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I Love America. I don’t think the problems you describe are unique to the US. > ‘and it doesn’t have a functioning government or healthcare system’ Can you el

I Love America. I don’t think the problems you describe are unique to the US. > ‘and it doesn’t have a functioning government or healthcare system’ Can you elaborate here? I can have no job or health insurance, and I can obtain treatment at the hospital. Likewise, I participate in city council and roundtables with city and state officials. They listen to the community and policy changes are affected based on that. Govt seems to work pretty well locally. Federal govt is not relevant at that level. Could it all be better? Sure. But your hyperbole is a bit much.

newacct583 6y ago
> I can have no job or health insurance, and I can obtain treatment at the hospital. For emergency care, yes. Not for an MRI or a hip replacement or dialysis or physical therapy or cancer treatments or prostheses or cataract surgery or... This is this weird myth that won't die. It's absolutely true that emergency rooms are universally required to treat anyone who walks in the door. It's also true that ER care makes up something like 3% of US health care delivered.
- alcatrash 6y ago
  "I can have no job..." 50 million people in the US are on Medicare or Medicaid, and can and do absolutely receive those services, based on age or income level. The ones who cannot are those whose income is too high for those service and choose to forgo or cannot afford health insurance.
  - katbyte 6y ago
    And then pay deductibles and co pays and god forbid your out of network.. your making excuses for a broken system which most of the 1st world surpasses in almost every way
    - spiderfarmer 6y ago
      My family of 5 pays just 240 euro’s per month. That covers everything.
    - alcatrash 6y ago
      I'm not trying make excuses for a broken system. I'm just trying to add some information that the poster I was replying to may have lacked. I'm not making a value judgement. Those on medicare/medicaid generally have low to no deductibles and co-pays. Those with private insurance may have large deductibles and out of pocket expenses. I certainly do, but I have multiple people in my household with chronic health issues.
coldcode 6y ago
You can obtain emergency stabilization treatment at a hospital and nothing more, this is paid for by other's insurance payments. Perhaps you live in some idyllic utopia cut off from the rest of the country. Maybe you don't require any mail delivery as you live in an Amish farming community and eschew technology, or a whites only wealthy retirement community with your every wish catered for like the ad I just saw. The real U.S. is becoming a dystopian nightmare for a large percentage of people. Ignoring it is what is a bit much.
spiderfarmer 6y ago
I’ll be clearer. Your healthcare system is laughable in comparison to many countries and the federal government hasn’t gotten anything done in the past 8 years.

newacct583 6y ago

> I can have no job or health insurance, and I can obtain treatment at the hospital. For emergency care, yes. Not for an MRI or a hip replacement or dialysis or physical therapy or cancer treatments or prostheses or cataract surgery or... This is this weird myth that won't die. It's absolutely true that emergency rooms are universally required to treat anyone who walks in the door. It's also true that ER care makes up something like 3% of US health care delivered.

alcatrash 6y ago
"I can have no job..." 50 million people in the US are on Medicare or Medicaid, and can and do absolutely receive those services, based on age or income level. The ones who cannot are those whose income is too high for those service and choose to forgo or cannot afford health insurance.
- katbyte 6y ago
  And then pay deductibles and co pays and god forbid your out of network.. your making excuses for a broken system which most of the 1st world surpasses in almost every way
  - spiderfarmer 6y ago
    My family of 5 pays just 240 euro’s per month. That covers everything.
  - alcatrash 6y ago
    I'm not trying make excuses for a broken system. I'm just trying to add some information that the poster I was replying to may have lacked. I'm not making a value judgement. Those on medicare/medicaid generally have low to no deductibles and co-pays. Those with private insurance may have large deductibles and out of pocket expenses. I certainly do, but I have multiple people in my household with chronic health issues.

coldcode 6y ago

You can obtain emergency stabilization treatment at a hospital and nothing more, this is paid for by other's insurance payments. Perhaps you live in some idyllic utopia cut off from the rest of the country. Maybe you don't require any mail delivery as you live in an Amish farming community and eschew technology, or a whites only wealthy retirement community with your every wish catered for like the ad I just saw. The real U.S. is becoming a dystopian nightmare for a large percentage of people. Ignoring it is what is a bit much.

spiderfarmer 6y ago

I’ll be clearer. Your healthcare system is laughable in comparison to many countries and the federal government hasn’t gotten anything done in the past 8 years.