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You might not agree that Black lives matter, but it's not a conspiracy theory. With BLM, people are opting in to a social movement rooted in observed police vi

You might not agree that Black lives matter, but it's not a conspiracy theory. With BLM, people are opting in to a social movement rooted in observed police violence. QAnon is not tethered to reality in the slightest.

sunseb 6y ago
Yes, you are right, BLM is not really a conspiracy theory. It's worst than that actually, it's neo-Marxism propaganda that is turning the US into a dystopian society. Hint: communism never ever did work anywhere in the world. https://medium.com/unsafe-space/a-liberal-for-trump-484abb7dc8aa https://medium.com/unsafe-space/a-liberal-for-trump-484abb7d...
- alexilliamson 6y ago
  You can imagine someone arriving at a personal philosophy that aligns with BLM, independently and through their own introspection. No one is going to independently arrive at the philosophy of QAnon just by pondering the world, again because it has very little to do with reality. It sounds like you agree they are not two sides of the same coin?
- Krasnol 6y ago
  > that is turning the US into a dystopian society As an outsider and someone who have fled real Socialism let me tell you one thing: your country looks pretty much like a dystopian society already.
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zozbot234 6y ago
Some Black Power and Black Israelite proponents do seem to believe that a very literal, criminal conspiracy is involved in oppressing Blacks, going far beyond the mainstream characterization of "racism". To be sure, these views are not exactly widespread or mainstream in the BLM movement - but they're probably at least as common as belief in the Qanon story.
- krapp 6y ago
  >but they're probably at least as common as belief in the Qanon story. Why do you believe this is probable?
- alexilliamson 6y ago
  I think that any sufficiently popular movement will have fringe extremists. QAnon has fringe extremists at its core.
commandlinefan 6y ago
Well, the BLM movement's theory is that the U.S. government - the police especially - are secretly racist, don't believe black lives matter, and are conspiratorially targeting black people just for being black (in spite of mounting evidence to the contrary). That's not too far away from my understanding of the QAnon conspiracy theory that there's some "secret society" of bilderbergers or illuminati that are pulling the strings behind the scenes.
- alexilliamson 6y ago
  I wouldn't characterize it as a belief that the police are secretly racist. More that they are openly and demonstrably racist.

sunseb 6y ago

Yes, you are right, BLM is not really a conspiracy theory. It's worst than that actually, it's neo-Marxism propaganda that is turning the US into a dystopian society. Hint: communism never ever did work anywhere in the world. https://medium.com/unsafe-space/a-liberal-for-trump-484abb7dc8aa https://medium.com/unsafe-space/a-liberal-for-trump-484abb7d...

alexilliamson 6y ago
You can imagine someone arriving at a personal philosophy that aligns with BLM, independently and through their own introspection. No one is going to independently arrive at the philosophy of QAnon just by pondering the world, again because it has very little to do with reality. It sounds like you agree they are not two sides of the same coin?
Krasnol 6y ago
> that is turning the US into a dystopian society As an outsider and someone who have fled real Socialism let me tell you one thing: your country looks pretty much like a dystopian society already.
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zozbot234 6y ago

Some Black Power and Black Israelite proponents do seem to believe that a very literal, criminal conspiracy is involved in oppressing Blacks, going far beyond the mainstream characterization of "racism". To be sure, these views are not exactly widespread or mainstream in the BLM movement - but they're probably at least as common as belief in the Qanon story.

krapp 6y ago
>but they're probably at least as common as belief in the Qanon story. Why do you believe this is probable?
alexilliamson 6y ago
I think that any sufficiently popular movement will have fringe extremists. QAnon has fringe extremists at its core.

commandlinefan 6y ago

Well, the BLM movement's theory is that the U.S. government - the police especially - are secretly racist, don't believe black lives matter, and are conspiratorially targeting black people just for being black (in spite of mounting evidence to the contrary). That's not too far away from my understanding of the QAnon conspiracy theory that there's some "secret society" of bilderbergers or illuminati that are pulling the strings behind the scenes.

alexilliamson 6y ago
I wouldn't characterize it as a belief that the police are secretly racist. More that they are openly and demonstrably racist.